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Nyororin 08-20-2009 12:58 PM
Had to jump in and correct some stuff. :p

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B:　いいえ、じょうずでわありません。までまでです。
That should be まだまだ not までまで. :)

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Also don't forget that particle inbetween 日本語 and じょうず.
Almost everyone leaves out the particle there. I don`t really think I`ve ever heard anyone include the particle...

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I learned that you can say いいえ、へたですtoo.I think it's the same,though,because as far as I know へた is anothe way of saying じょうずでわありません,but it's shorter
じょうずではありません is sort of like saying "No, it`s not so good." - へたです is like saying "It sucks". There is a pretty big difference, and a pretty big leap in politeness. If I complimented someone and they answered with へたです I`d feel vaguely insulted. It`s really not a good thing to say in reply to a compliment.

いいえ、そんなことないです is a great all purpose response.

yuriyuri 08-20-2009 01:11 PM
Can you also say in regards to a compliment something like:
いえいえそんな事がないんです
or
いえいえそんな事がありません
?

Nyororin 08-20-2009 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by yuriyuri (Post 763164)
Can you also say in regards to a compliment something like:
いえいえそんな事がないんです
or
いえいえそんな事がありません
?
The いえいえ is totally fine, but I wouldn`t insert が. The meaning changes. If you insist on putting a particle I guess you could put は, but really it`s far more natural and correct to leave the particle out. The same with using ありません.

yuriyuri 08-20-2009 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 763167)
The いえいえ is totally fine, but I wouldn`t insert が. The meaning changes. If you insist on putting a particle I guess you could put は, but really it`s far more natural and correct to leave the particle out. The same with using ありません.
Ah, so do you mean it would be ok to say:
いえいえそんな事ないんです
or
いえいえそんな事ありません

or even leaving it at: いえいえそんな事...

Sorry if i mis-understood your post :)

yuujirou 08-20-2009 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 763162)
Had to jump in and correct some stuff. :p



That should be まだまだ not までまで. :)



Almost everyone leaves out the particle there. I don`t really think I`ve ever heard anyone include the particle...



じょうずではありません is sort of like saying "No, it`s not so good." - へたです is like saying "It sucks". There is a pretty big difference, and a pretty big leap in politeness. If I complimented someone and they answered with へたです I`d feel vaguely insulted. It`s really not a good thing to say in reply to a compliment.

いいえ、そんなことないです is a great all purpose response.
alas our grammatical saviour saves the convo <3

and i'm so glad that i was correct in leaving out the particle ^_^

yokatta de~suuuuu >.<''

Nyororin 08-20-2009 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by yuriyuri (Post 763171)
Ah, so do you mean it would be ok to say:
いえいえそんな事ないんです
or
いえいえそんな事ありません
Yes, both of those would be fine.

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or even leaving it at: いえいえそんな事...
I`d finish the sentence. :)

SceptileMaster 08-21-2009 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 763162)

Almost everyone leaves out the particle there. I don`t really think I`ve ever heard anyone include the particle...
Thank you for clearing this up. Is this common with most other adjective type sentences as well?


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