JapanForum.com  


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
(#1 (permalink))
Old
jkami (Offline)
JF Regular
 
Posts: 35
Join Date: Mar 2009
「頭のいい人」? 「頭がいい人」? - 12-07-2009, 07:14 AM

I really don't understand when to use の and when to use が

I always connect nouns and adjectives using が

For example:

髪が長いです。

But when I use 頭がいい人, my teacher says it should be 頭のいい人.

Is it because there is another noun 人 after the adjective いい?


Which of the following is correct?

髪が長い人? 髪の長い人?
Reply With Quote
(#2 (permalink))
Old
Nagoyankee's Avatar
Nagoyankee (Offline)
中庸を得るのだ~
 
Posts: 2,119
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Tokyo, Japan
12-07-2009, 07:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jkami View Post
I really don't understand when to use の and when to use が

I always connect nouns and adjectives using が

For example:

髪が長いです。

But when I use 頭がいい人, my teacher says it should be 頭のいい人.

Is it because there is another noun 人 after the adjective いい?
No. That's not the reason.

Strictly speaking, 頭がいい人 isn't really incorrect but native speakers prefer saying 頭のいい人 because the sound の is easier on the Japanese ear than that of が.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jkami View Post
Which of the following is correct?

髪が長い人? 髪の長い人?
Again, both are correct but the native speakers' choice will be the latter.
Reply With Quote
(#3 (permalink))
Old
jkami (Offline)
JF Regular
 
Posts: 35
Join Date: Mar 2009
12-07-2009, 07:40 AM

Thank you again Nagoya.

But what if there is nothing after the adjective.

For example, 彼女の顔が綺麗です. 

Do native speakers say 彼女の顔の綺麗です.
Reply With Quote
(#4 (permalink))
Old
Nagoyankee's Avatar
Nagoyankee (Offline)
中庸を得るのだ~
 
Posts: 2,119
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Tokyo, Japan
12-07-2009, 08:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jkami View Post
Thank you again Nagoya.

But what if there is nothing after the adjective.

For example, 彼女の顔が綺麗です. 

Do native speakers say 彼女の顔の綺麗です.
彼女の顔綺麗です > 彼女の顔綺麗です

Your sentence with が can only be used in limited situations. Suppose you and I are looking at a pic of 5 girls. I ask you, "Which ones do you find pretty?" and you can say by pointing to one of the girls, "彼女の顔が綺麗です".

No. We never say 彼女の顔の綺麗です. This sentence lacks the subject marker, which is は.
Reply With Quote
(#5 (permalink))
Old
KyleGoetz's Avatar
KyleGoetz (Offline)
Attorney at Flaw
 
Posts: 2,965
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
12-07-2009, 08:52 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jkami View Post
Thank you again Nagoya.

But what if there is nothing after the adjective.

For example, 彼女の顔が綺麗です. 

Do native speakers say 彼女の顔の綺麗です.
の can sub in for が in phrases that modify a noun. That's basically the rule. It doesn't sub in anywhere else.

For example,
頭がいい人はおもしろい。ー>頭のいい人はおもしろい 。
鈴木さんは頭がいい。ー/ー>鈴木さんは頭のいい。 wrong wrong wrong
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright 2003-2006 Virtual Japan.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6