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KyleGoetz 02-03-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aliasdarkyin (Post 798225)
Ok Ok I get the point - it's gona be hard. Well i don't care, I want to learn the language.

None of us are trying to stop you. Most people who go into Japanese thinking it will be easy give up when they find out it's not. We just want to make sure you are prepared so you don't give up.

aliasdarkyin 02-04-2010 02:00 PM

Hehe thanks dude for ur concern, but i realy do want to learn it :D

KyleGoetz 02-04-2010 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aliasdarkyin (Post 798401)
Hehe thanks dude for ur concern, but i realy do want to learn it :D

OK, the first thing to do is learn katakana and hiragana.

After that, here's what I suggested in another thread as, in my experience, the ideal (or at least a very effective) program for learning Japanese:
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Beginner:
Yookoso! for structured grammar and vocab
Kanji in Context
Kanji ABC
download Anki (or Memosyne, but I like Anki better) and make flashcards of all words and kanji you learn (have a kanji/kana deck and a vocab deck) and review daily, maybe introducing 10 new cards of vocab daily and 5 new kanji cards daily

Intermediate:
Japanese Learner's Dictionary
Japanese Verbs at a Glance
How to Tell the Difference Between Japanese Particles
A Dictionary of Japanese Particles
bump Anki up to 30 new kanji a week (so do about 8 a day and have three days-ish of pure review each week with no new cards) and 100 new vocab a week—pull the words/kanji from lists for JLPT 3 and 2 (well, technically it's JLPT 2, 3, and 4, since in 2010 there are 5 levels)

Advanced:
Anki the same way as Intermediate
どんな時どう使う日本語表現文型500
start reading news articles via news.google.jp, and have an Anki flashcard deck for new vocab from these articles

You should also throughout be looking at the grammar points tested on the various JLPT tests.

This will get you writing and reading. To get speaking and listening, you really only have one true option: hang out with people who can speak Japanese. Watching TV will not really help you all that much. It will help you some with listening some, though.

aliasdarkyin 02-05-2010 12:56 PM

and what about Japanese learning tapes...? thats what im useing.
i can already say quite a bit... the tapes are teaching me the basics. there are 90 tapes of 30 minutes each - they teach u sentences and word order, and there's also bonus tapes that teach u words. so if i learn those tapes well - like i hav (im only on the 4th tape because i replay it until i know it off by heart) then i should be able to move on to gramma like u say.
but i dont think moving on to gramma straight away is very wise...

MMM 02-05-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aliasdarkyin (Post 798587)
and what about Japanese learning tapes...? thats what im useing.
i can already say quite a bit... the tapes are teaching me the basics. there are 90 tapes of 30 minutes each - they teach u sentences and word order, and there's also bonus tapes that teach u words. so if i learn those tapes well - like i hav (im only on the 4th tape because i replay it until i know it off by heart) then i should be able to move on to gramma like u say.
but i dont think moving on to gramma straight away is very wise...

The sooner you start learning grammar the better. You will move from being someone who can repeat a tape-recording to someone who can think in Japanese.


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