JapanForum.com

JapanForum.com (https://www.japanforum.com/forum/)
-   Japanese Language Help (https://www.japanforum.com/forum/japanese-language-help/)
-   -   nihongo or nihonjin (https://www.japanforum.com/forum/japanese-language-help/33903-nihongo-nihonjin.html)

shu 09-18-2010 07:44 PM

nihongo or nihonjin
 
when you want to say japanese girl would you use nihongo or nihonjin for japanese?

MMM 09-18-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shu (Post 829591)
when you want to say japanese girl would you use nihongo or nihonjin for japanese?

In this situation "go" means "language" and "jin" means "person".

RobinMask 09-18-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shu (Post 829591)
when you want to say japanese girl would you use nihongo or nihonjin for japanese?

Nihonjin.

-go signifies a language. -jin signifies a person/nationality.

Edit: Nevermind, MMM beat me to answering, lol.

KyleGoetz 09-18-2010 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shu (Post 829591)
when you want to say japanese girl would you use nihongo or nihonjin for japanese?

Neither means "Japanese girl," if that's what you're asking.

manganimefan227 09-19-2010 03:43 AM

Wouldn't it be 日本の女の子?

student95 09-19-2010 05:36 AM

Nihonjin or Nihongo or nihonhito?
 
Quote:

Wouldn't it be日本の女の子?
Apparently it isn't. I was corrected when I wrote that. :D It's actually 日本人の女の子 or にほんじん の おんなのこ。

My question: In 「日本人は ごはん を たべる まえに...」do you read the kanji as にほんじんor にほんひと?

KyleGoetz 09-19-2010 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by student95 (Post 829641)
Apparently it isn't. I was corrected when I wrote that. :D It's actually 日本人の女の子 or にほんじん の おんなのこ。

My question: In 「日本人は ごはん を たべる まえに...」do you read the kanji as にほんじんor にほんひと?

にほんじん. Typically, in non-name kanji compounds with no kana, you read all the kanji using the Chinese reading (音読み) rather than the Japanese reading (訓読み). じん is 音読み. ひと is 訓読み.

Also, due to a phenomenon called 連諾(れんだく), ひと would probably have been read びと in this case, were you to use 訓読み.

To illustrate my point about rendaku, here are some examples:
ひと+ひと=ひとびと.
はなれ+はなれ=はなればなれ.
てん+こく=てんごく
etc.

shu 09-19-2010 06:52 PM

thx for the help.

manganimefan227 09-20-2010 02:28 AM

Thank you very much for saying that!!

For some strange reason, I always think that girl is かのじょ >.>

student95 09-20-2010 12:32 PM

Quote:

Also, due to a phenomenon called 連諾(れんだく), ひと would probably have been read びと in this case, were you to use 訓読み.
れんだく <<Ooh! Interesting. :)
Wait a minute, you mean although it is typical to use the onyomi reading it isn't wrong to use にほんびと?

Quote:

For some strange reason, I always think that girl is かのじょ >.>
Strange? You're a manga/anime fan as am I :p

KyleGoetz 09-20-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by student95 (Post 829799)
れんだく <<Ooh! Interesting. :)
Wait a minute, you mean although it is typical to use the onyomi reading it isn't wrong to use にほんびと?

No, it is wrong. I mean that if it were not wrong to use kunyomi, then it probably would have been read as bito instead of hito. But it's wrong, so neither is correct.

chiuchimu 09-20-2010 03:33 PM

Use jyosei

student95 09-21-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz (Post 829809)
No, it is wrong. I mean that if it were not wrong to use kunyomi, then it probably would have been read as bito instead of hito. But it's wrong, so neither is correct.

ありがとう ございます。

Sashimister 09-22-2010 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobee (Post 829954)
if you want to call a Japanese girl you dont know, just call her oneesan


steven 09-22-2010 07:34 AM

If you're like 50 years old I don't see a problem with that :mtongue: . You gotta take off the O and have a bit of a growl in your voice to make it authentic though.

It'd also be weird to say "nesan" to an elementary school student (unless she has a little sister who you are aware of... and the person you're talking to is aware that you are aware that they have a little sister). Another case would be if you are younger than the (female) person you're talking to (provided you are fairly close).

On second thought, you probably shouldn't go around calling people you don't know "nesan".


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:35 AM.

SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6