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masaegu 11-01-2010 09:34 AM

Tsugaru Dialect or French?
 
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Check out this new TV commercial for Toyota! The woman driver in it speaks in Tsugaru dialect and I can't catch a word of what she's saying though I'm a native Japanese speaker. So they provided subtitles!

EDIT: YouTube video pulled, but you can see the commercial here:

passo ハナ女子大学

-MMM


This dialect is spoken in Aomori Prefecture in Northern Japan.

KyleGoetz 11-01-2010 09:49 AM

That's crazu. Thanks for the video!
I opened this post thinking it was going to be some noob asking if he should learn French or Japanese via the Tsugaru dialect. ;)

SHAD0W 11-01-2010 12:10 PM

Thats awesome! I'll have to show this to my language Sensei, she is from Aomori.

masaegu 11-01-2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 835464)
Thats awesome! I'll have to show this to my language Sensei, she is from Aomori.

Aomori people are legally prohibited from teaching Japanese in Japan. So they have no choice but to teach abroad. :D j/k

chryuop 11-01-2010 08:04 PM

Cool. I thought it was only my language that they had to put subtitles when they make a show where they speak in dialect.
Masaegu, in Italian I can tell what town/region a person comes from from his accent/dialect even though I might not understand what he/she is saying. I can pinpoint the area of origin of that person also by hearing speaking regular Italian coz of the accent.

Does the same thing happen with Japanese language?

cranks 11-01-2010 08:12 PM

Lol, I can't even recognize it as Japanese.

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Originally Posted by chryuop (Post 835515)
Cool. I thought it was only my language that they had to put subtitles when they make a show where they speak in dialect.
Masaegu, in Italian I can tell what town/region a person comes from from his accent/dialect even though I might not understand what he/she is saying. I can pinpoint the area of origin of that person also by hearing speaking regular Italian coz of the accent.

Does the same thing happen with Japanese language?

I can't pinpoint it but I can usually tell people are form north east(東北) or west(関西) or south (九州) if they have the accents when they speak standard Japanese. If they lived in Tokyo long enough, for several years, they usually have very little accent so it'd be hard to tell.

MMM 11-01-2010 09:12 PM

I am confused. Where is the Tsugaru dialect. The first person is speaking French and the second person is speaking Japanese with a fake French accent, right?

cranks 11-01-2010 09:17 PM

My guess is both are speaking 津軽弁.

MMM 11-01-2010 09:29 PM

Nobody in that commercial is from an area that speaks Tsugaru-ben.

Riisa Naka is from Nagasaki and I think it is pretty clear she is speaking French. Morisanchu (trio) is not from that area either, so it would be weird for them to use such a dialect.

I think the joke is Riisa Naka is speaking French and the Morisanchu girl wants to look cool by speaking French back, but is speaking Japanese with a bad French accent.

cranks 11-01-2010 09:33 PM

Not sure how authentic they sound native Tsugarians :p but apparently they both are speaking 津軽弁

「わのかでパン、しけるめに鍋さフォンデュせば、うだ でぐめよ(わたしのフランスパン、焼きたてのうちに鍋 でフォンデュすればおいしい)」
「せばだば、やってみら(それでは、やってみます)」
http://www.kahoku.co.jp/news/2010/11/20101101t25029.htm


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