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IcchanWii 04-20-2011 07:40 AM

[Help] Japanese slang
 
I study japan in formal education for some times now, but still when I read manga and watch anime those knowledges is useless.

the thing is, Japanese slang is far different from formal Japan you get from the book.

so can anyone here sharing their experiences in speaking with daily japanese, probable with "slang" words. ^^

chryuop 04-20-2011 12:53 PM

Are you sure it is slang? I would divide the language outside of textbooks in 3 classes (doesn't apply only to Japanese, but to all languages):
1_ Everyday language: it comes down to getting rid of extra fancy phrases and structures.
2_ Colloquial language: Here the language becomes more "personalized". Sounds become more simplified for a more practical use of the language, some shortened and some words linked (for example "wanna", "gonna", " 'sup" and so on).
3_ Slang: Slang is a real sub-language where words assume a completely different meaning from their original one or again new words are created. The use is usually restricted to a certain group of people (gang, young, some ethnics and so on). When the new words become popular they start being used also from people outside of the group.
(I left out the dialects, which are a big important class as well).

So are you sure you have problems with slang? I ask you that because I know that colloquialism is probably as hard as slang (at least for me).

masaegu 04-20-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IcchanWii (Post 862231)
I only know very formal Japanese like BAKABAKABAKABAKABAKABAKA. Teach me some slang so I can enjoy my anime more! :D :rheart: :D

Go take a hike, pal!

myk 04-20-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by masaegu (Post 862247)
Go take a hike, pal!

who are you to say what is and isn't a valid reason to learn something?

masaegu 04-20-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by myk (Post 862253)
who are you to say what is and isn't a valid reason to learn something?

Just go read my other posts and see how I go out of my way to help members learn Japanese!

And what have you done for other members compared to me, seriously?

myk 04-20-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by masaegu (Post 862258)
Just go read my other posts and see how I go out of my way to help members learn Japanese!

And what have you done for other members compared to me, seriously?

well in this case you're not being helpful; you're being abrasive and intolerant.

masaegu 04-20-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by myk (Post 862259)
well in this case you're not being helpful; you're being abrasive and intolerant.

How do you help a dude who says he has learned formally but chooses to put BAKABAKABAKABAKABAKABAKA as his sig to show for it?

I have all the reasons to be intolerant with people who show no respect for my culture and language as you would with your counterparts.

siokan 04-20-2011 03:42 PM

Lolita complex
 
Useless slang word;)

バカスク bakasuku : baka(stupid) suku(scooter)
http://japan.techinsight.jp/sukai.jpg
Scooter with large engine displacement
Foolishness has willingly gotten on.

朋子 tomoko
VfL Wolfsburg: Makoto Hasebe
Makoto Hasebe (VfL Wolfsburg)
The name of the girl friend who parted.

ロリコン Lolicon (Lolita complex)
Hayao Miyazaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hayao Miyazaki

IcchanWii 04-21-2011 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chryuop (Post 862243)
Are you sure it is slang? I would divide the language outside of textbooks in 3 classes (doesn't apply only to Japanese, but to all languages):
1_ Everyday language: it comes down to getting rid of extra fancy phrases and structures.
2_ Colloquial language: Here the language becomes more "personalized". Sounds become more simplified for a more practical use of the language, some shortened and some words linked (for example "wanna", "gonna", " 'sup" and so on).
3_ Slang: Slang is a real sub-language where words assume a completely different meaning from their original one or again new words are created. The use is usually restricted to a certain group of people (gang, young, some ethnics and so on). When the new words become popular they start being used also from people outside of the group.
(I left out the dialects, which are a big important class as well).

So are you sure you have problems with slang? I ask you that because I know that colloquialism is probably as hard as slang (at least for me).

yes, i mean that colloquialism .. i don't know what the term, but i guess it's exactly what you explain.

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Originally Posted by masaegu (Post 862247)
Go take a hike, pal!

of all the words, you have to stumble on my sig, really ... pls ppl, let's not make a ruckus out of it, i'll change it if it to much offensive. thank you for your concern ^^

Supperman 04-21-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by IcchanWii (Post 862231)
I study japan in formal education for some times now, but still when I read manga and watch anime those knowledges is useless.

the thing is, Japanese slang is far different from formal Japan you get from the book.

so can anyone here sharing their experiences in speaking with daily japanese, probable with "slang" words. ^^

マジ暑い!
マジ眠い!  マジ is "really", "seriously", or/and "to be frank with you".

ブチ殺す! ブチ is emphasizing 殺す.

・・・・・ナウ! I'm not for sure, but it means "now" ?? And only written words, in the forum or email. Am I correct?

Realism 04-21-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by IcchanWii (Post 862231)
I study japan in formal education for some times now, but still when I read manga and watch anime those knowledges is useless.

the thing is, Japanese slang is far different from formal Japan you get from the book.

so can anyone here sharing their experiences in speaking with daily japanese, probable with "slang" words. ^^


They don't use much slang in anime.

They're just using vocabulary you've never learned in class before.

I mean, can you imagine an anime (or movie, book..etc..) that is full of slang all over the place? It would never get published.

And how is  マジ slang? People use that word all the time.

Slang would be more like オナニ、おまんこ, チャッカ。。。。キラーパ� �

duo797 04-22-2011 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Realism (Post 862446)
They don't use much slang in anime.

They're just using vocabulary you've never learned in class before.

I mean, can you imagine an anime (or movie, book..etc..) that is full of slang all over the place? It would never get published.

And how is  マジ slang? People use that word all the time.

Slang would be more like オナニ、おまんこ, チャッカ。。。。キラーパ� �

I'd like to point out that common-use doesn't make a word not-slang. That's like saying 'bitchin' isn't slang. I can give more examples, but I think you understand the point I'm getting at.


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