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Sumippi 09-16-2011 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz (Post 879973)
I hear て, not た. But then again, who cares? You know 〜たあります is grammatically impossible, so your brain should immediately fill in with the correct sound. Your brain already does this with your native language. Just imagine every time you've talked on a cell phone with a bad connection.

Work hard and this will happen with Japanese, too. When I hear that audio, my brain understands instinctively they're talking about a てある construction even if I don't hear anything but かいtあります

Naruhodo...!!

Suesan 09-16-2011 03:17 AM

I think it is just a typo.

masaegu 09-16-2011 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suesan (Post 880000)
I think it is just a typo.

ちゃんとスレ読んでから発言してる?

口頭で言っているのに「タイポ」はないでしょう。

Suesan 09-19-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masaegu (Post 880001)
ちゃんとスレ読んでから発言してる?

口頭で言っているのに「タイポ」はないでしょう。

すみません、勘違いでレスしてました。
決して悪気があっての回答ではないです。

Realism 09-20-2011 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pacerier (Post 879972)
This is weird, I opened the video with VLC player, slowed it by 2x / 3x / 4x and it still sounds like 書いた instead of 書いて


I've updated the post with alternative links:

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A couple of native Japanese speakers here have already told you that it's 書いてある....if they can't convince you then nothing well.

It doesn't matter how it sounds...

if you say 書いてある really fast it will sound like カイたる

pacerier 09-20-2011 08:54 AM

I mean I was just thinking would 書いある be a "legal" short-form for 書いてある ?

pacerier 09-20-2011 11:26 AM

[removed duplicate post]

Sumippi 09-25-2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pacerier (Post 880526)
I mean I was just thinking would 書いある be a "legal" short-form for 書いてある ?

(You mean「書いたる」, not 「書いある」here, right?)

As I've already said, I think we never write 「書いたる」....

If I read「書いたる」, I'll think it's saying「書いてやる」=「書いてあげる」(I'll write it for you) in Kansai dialect... At least I don't think it's standard Japanese....

And if I read「書いたある」(in manga, for example), I'll think it's saying 「書いてある」in Kansai dialect.

pacerier 09-26-2011 12:01 PM

Ok thanks for the help =D


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