たある vs てある conjugation

[Sumippi]

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz

I hear て, not た. But then again, who cares? You know 〜たあります is grammatically impossible, so your brain should immediately fill in with the correct sound. Your brain already does this with your native language. Just imagine every time you've talked on a cell phone with a bad connection.

Work hard and this will happen with Japanese, too. When I hear that audio, my brain understands instinctively they're talking about a てある construction even if I don't hear anything but かいtあります

Naruhodo...!!

[Suesan]

I think it is just a typo.

[masaegu]

Originally Posted by Suesan

I think it is just a typo.

ちゃんとスレ読んでから発言してる？

口頭で言っているのに「タイポ」はないでしょう。

[Suesan]

Originally Posted by masaegu

ちゃんとスレ読んでから発言してる？

口頭で言っているのに「タイポ」はないでしょう。

すみません、勘違いでレスしてました。
決して悪気があっての回答ではないです。

[Realism]

Originally Posted by pacerier

This is weird, I opened the video with VLC player, slowed it by 2x / 3x / 4x and it still sounds like 書いた instead of 書いて


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A couple of native Japanese speakers here have already told you that it's 書いてある....if they can't convince you then nothing well.

It doesn't matter how it sounds...

if you say 書いてある　really fast it will sound like　カイたる

[pacerier]

I mean I was just thinking would 書いある be a "legal" short-form for 書いてある ?

[pacerier]

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[Sumippi]

Originally Posted by pacerier

I mean I was just thinking would 書いある be a "legal" short-form for 書いてある ?

(You mean「書いたる」, not 「書いある」here, right?)

As I've already said, I think we never write 「書いたる」....

If I read「書いたる」, I'll think it's saying「書いてやる」=「書いてあげる」(I'll write it for you) in Kansai dialect... At least I don't think it's standard Japanese....

And if I read「書いたある」(in manga, for example), I'll think it's saying 「書いてある」in Kansai dialect.

[pacerier]

Ok thanks for the help =D