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barnbum 01-03-2012 07:17 PM

Grammer question 'o' vs 'de'
 
Here are two sentences:

Enpitsu de kaitemo iidesuka?
No-to o karitemo ii desuka?

Q: Why does one use 'enpitsu de' as opposed to 'no-to o'? I'm not sure when to use 'de' and 'o' in these particular sentences. Can anyone explain the difference?

blutorange 01-03-2012 08:00 PM

There is quite a difference here:

Enpitsu de kaite ————— to write with a pen
Enpitsu wo kaite ————— to write a pen (???)

No-to wo karite ————— to borrow a notebookt
No-to de karite ————— to borrow with a notebook (???)

Have you studied / do you know the basic meaning of the particles を and で?

barnbum 02-01-2012 03:01 AM

Thank you!!
 
Thank you very much for your reply! I finally understand why my text book used "de"!!! I have studied "o" and "de" before, but not this particular usage. Thank you!

Supperman 02-04-2012 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blutorange (Post 891204)
Enpitsu de kaite ————— to write with a pen
Enpitsu wo kaite ————— to write a pen (???)

Enpitsu wo kaku--------to draw a pencil, to draw a picture of the pencil


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