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COnfidential 06-12-2007 08:58 PM

Learning order
 
In what order do you guys think we should start learning the language?
Start with Hiragana --> Katakana --> Several Kanji --> Grammar --> sentence structure.... Im just asking:9 hoping for many good answers:ywave:

Beki 06-12-2007 09:09 PM

I'd have to agree with you *thumbs up!*

whilst all the while continuing to build vocabulary xx

COnfidential 06-12-2007 09:12 PM

Id like to hear everybody's learning'order, like do u learn all the hiragana first katakana second then grammar, kanji, sentence structure and so on, tell me everything!:p
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zenit 06-13-2007 12:48 PM

I started by hiragana, i'm now with grammar and katakana at the same time, dont know what to do next.

kuromiXpink 06-24-2007 11:16 PM

i actually started out with katakana (laughs) but then i think that it was actually a wrong idea to begin with that...
so i would recommend starting with hiragana and study some nouns or words in hiragana as you are learning it. move onto katakana next while learning words written in katakana. Start some basics of Japanese grammer and conversation (i mean really, REALLY basic) and then you start remembering a few of the basic kanji's or the most used kanjis and then you start to focus more on the grammer part.

Nyororin 06-25-2007 03:50 AM

I started with Hiragana, then to Katakana, and after that increased vocabulary while learning more grammar, etc. But at that point I was in Japan, so really I could probably have skipped learning those before coming over here.
Kanji, in my opinion, should come last, and romaji should never even come into the picture.

If you try to learn Kanji earlier, before you really know what the ones you are learning mean, it seems like a waste. It`s like learning to spell long and complicated words which you don`t even know the meaning of. You forget them very quickly if you`re not at the level where you actually use and understand them.

If at all possible - especially if you`re learning from a book - you should try to learn the Hiragana first and use a book with all the Japanese written IN Japanese. Why? Because Hiragana are always ALWAYS pronounced exactly the same. With romaji you have all these possibilities. Even if you know how something is supposed to be pronounced, your mind will want to read the romaji in a more familiar way. You`ll be left with screwy pronunciation.

vulgarshudder 06-25-2007 07:26 AM

I agree you should never even bother with romaji. It makes things all the more complicated. I hate it now, it makes reading stuff so slow cos I have to pause to work out what is what, where with a kana sentence I can see what the verbs, nouns and adjectives are straight away and what they mean.

I learnt hiragana+katakana--->grammer+vocab+kanji

samokan 06-25-2007 08:17 AM

I started everything simultaneously :D. you could say multi-tasking.
(Univ) No actually, it all started with hiragana and vocabulary and basic grammar and proper writing. Romaji was still there after about 4 meetings, when we were required to have memorize all hiragana, then classes became more and more concentrated on hiragana. Then came Katakana. And during memorization of the characters we also learn how to write them in proper order and pronunciation. Classes was just once a week for one semester, after that I did learn my hiragana, katakana both reading and writing then some basic greetings.

(Work) all at once :D except Kanji. I learn Kanji on my own. I started with the most basic.

When I came to Japan, I could not juggle everything once since I have to study work also. I concentrated more on conversation and improved my listening skill. Crush course on formal Japanese. But still I did not abondoned kanji learning.

Recently, I change priorities again, more on Kanji reading, and vocabulary and review grammar structure.
Right now.. am not studying at all ...lol :D

bloodsinger 06-25-2007 10:21 AM

For myself I started off with Hiragana then I learnt sentence structure, words and grammer together and then I learnt Katakana and Kanji at the same time.

konakona 06-27-2007 10:15 AM

Well, I've only taken one course in it ... I wanted to take an actual class, but at my school we had to start with a conversational Japanese class, where we just used romanji. So it's pretty much (not totally, but pretty much) all I know. I don't mind it so much, despite other people who tell me I'm 'learning wrong' 'cause they started differently. The next class I take in the fall won't be using romanji so I'll learn kanji and such then.

I really enjoyed learning about the sentence structure, actually. It's really difficult for me ... but I find it lots of fun. O_o Well ... I guess it's not supposed to be fun exactly, but I REALLY love grammar in english so it kind of makes sense that I would be interested in finding out how things work in the Japanese language.

82riceballs 06-27-2007 07:00 PM

when i first started learning, i didn't know there was such a thing as romaji...
1. Hiragana + basic sentence structure
2. Katakana + (still) basic sentence structure
Now, I'm on
3. Kanji + more complex sentence structure but (still) kind of basic.

the textbook i used was japanese for young people.

じゃ !

TsukiHana 06-28-2007 06:03 AM

I am infact learning Japanese now and we are starting with Hiragana with kanji and vocab all mixed in, no katakana yet, purely Japanese. In a weeks time we should be starting sentence structure and grammar.

Gorotsuki 06-29-2007 04:26 PM

I do hiragana with grammar. I first started with kanji's though and found that wasn't a good idea and went to hiragana with grammar. I moved to kanji and still doing thoes atm....I should really learn katakana

BlueGirl 06-29-2007 04:30 PM

I started with vocab and stuff, through podcasts, and learn hiragana and katakana together at Real Kana - Practice Hiragana and Katakana

This site rocks! I'm looking at Kanji a little, but I'm not worrying too much about it yet since I don't know all the hiragana etc. yet.

WickedStyles 06-29-2007 06:54 PM

I started with vocab, then sentence structure + grammar.
It's because I listen to and watch a lot of things in Japanese. ie: jpop, anime, and videos of random Japanese stuff.

Learning how to read it isn't a problem yet. . . I rarely even read things in English. ^^
But I have so many different things to study from, if I do need to read any of them, I have charts. . . and the internet.

I'm going to be taking a class in the fall and I'm sure they'll teach me anyway.

kingkaleigh 06-29-2007 07:46 PM

wha?
 
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Originally Posted by COnfidential (Post 150228)
In what order do you guys think we should start learning the language?
Start with Hiragana --> Katakana --> Several Kanji --> Grammar --> sentence structure.... Im just asking:9 hoping for many good answers:ywave:

Wha> ur starting with names? shouldn't u start with the aphalbet? or do they not have 1?

Kaya 06-30-2007 08:26 AM

Hi guys! I was wondering if any of you are familiar with a game called Slime Forest http://lrnj.com/slimeforest.html?
I downloaded the game and played it for a week, meaning that I was able to recognize all the Katakana and Hiragana, and a few basic Kanji. Then two months ago I moved and was separated from the old computer (besides I don't have the time for practising the game anymore as I am working full time this whole summer), so now I don't remember one single kana at all...bleh, all that playing for nothing, I don't remember any of them and what sounds they represents...quite annoying, but I still think that it was a good way of learning how to recognize the different kana. Of course, you need patience, and repetition (a lot of it), but it was still a great way to learn. For a long time I've wanted to try to learn the kana signs, but I have never had the motivation to sit down with a table of the different kana and tried to memorize them that way. By playing a game - not a very exciting game, really, but still a game where you interact, you have a goal, and you learn by repetition - I found that this helped a lot. So when I'm done working this summer and I get my own computer again, I'm definitely going to play the game again. Of course, I'll have to start back from scratch again (dang...but maybe it'll come back faster than when it was all new...:p).
Anyway, I just thought it could be a good idea for anyone who wants to learn the kana signs, but don't have the motivation to sit down with a piece of paper and try to memorize them that way.
Also, I feel you have the possibility to interact more than if you use Real Kana - Practice Hiragana and Katakana (but I can imagine this is a great way to recognize the different ways you can draw the same kana, so I will use this one too after I refresh my memory with Slime Forest).
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