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princessmarisa 12-28-2010 02:34 AM

Why are you calling the AKB48 idols lolicon in the poll?

Umihito 12-29-2010 06:16 PM

I love how so far no one has voted that lolicon is messed up XD

RealJames 12-30-2010 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by princessmarisa (Post 843720)
Why are you calling the AKB48 idols lolicon in the poll?

James asks any sane random Japanese person: "Is AKB ロリコン?"
Any sane random Japanese person replies: "うん、めっちゃ" / "Yeah, totally"

The more important question is why isn't anyone here calling it that? o.O lol

Umihito 12-30-2010 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 844073)
The more important question is why isn't anyone here calling it that? o.O lol

Guess to most people here they pass as looking 'old enough' for what they're doing in the vids...
And tut tut... still no votes on that last option 0_o

MMM 12-30-2010 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 844073)
James asks any sane random Japanese person: "Is AKB ロリコン?"
Any sane random Japanese person replies: "うん、めっちゃ" / "Yeah, totally"

The more important question is why isn't anyone here calling it that? o.O lol

ロリコン is not the girls, but the old man who is obsessed with them. ロリコン is the disease/sickness/complex.

RealJames 12-30-2010 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 844104)
ロリコン is not the girls, but the old man who is obsessed with them. ロリコン is the disease/sickness/complex.

the complex, yes that's right.

in spoken Japanese it isn't uncommon for it to be used the way I've used it though.

But, in correct English I suppose I should say that AKB is appealing to those afflicted by the Lolita complex. This is hardly a disputed point among the majority of Japanese people.

Ronin4hire 12-30-2010 04:52 AM

As much as I hate AKB48 (I think they're hot though)

Liking them doesn't mean you have a lolita complex.

RealJames 12-30-2010 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 844108)
As much as I hate AKB48 (I think they're hot though)

Liking them doesn't mean you have a lolita complex.

No it just means you like girls that try to look and act younger/childish.
That's not lolita at all.... right.. ?

(that's the sound of denial by the way ;)

WingsToDiscovery 12-30-2010 04:58 AM

I don't know if there's any explanation for this (my friend and I could be totally wrong), but we were talking the other day about how many girls here walk around with their bangs over their faces and basically staring at the ground. And if they happen to be wearing a scarf, they often have it totally wrapped around their faces and then assume the staring at the ground with bangs over their faces as they walk, basically making it impossible to see their faces. Not every girl does this, but a significant enough amount to actually draw attention to myself and several people I know to notice it.

I'm basically wondering if this has anything to do with the objectification of girls here (in forms such as lolicon)? Do these girls do this "burqa" style to stop men from staring at them? Just something that's been on my mind and felt appropriate to post in this thread.

Ronin4hire 12-30-2010 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 844110)
No it just means you like girls that try to look and act younger/childish.
That's not lolita at all.... right.. ?

(that's the sound of denial by the way ;)

I said they were hot. I didn't say I liked them.

And what does it mean to be childish? The sexual angst that is popular in the west is just as childish as the fake innocence that is popular in the East.


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