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Gorotsuki 01-16-2008 08:33 PM

Martial Arts
 
I am quite interested in doing some type of martial art but I am not sure what to do. I have an interest in Aikido and karate but I am not sure which one I should really go with also I have no idea where I would learn Aikido from.

Saiga 01-17-2008 01:03 AM

I would say try looking into a health club or maybe a fitness center...maybe even a college. I only say that because my college offers stuff like Aikido and other martial arts but only some. I hope you find somewhere that will have what you need.
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Ronin4hire 01-17-2008 01:34 AM

What are your goals?

If you want to become super tough and have the option of competing in the ring I'd suggest Boxing, Muay Thai or Kyokushin Karate (or any other type of full contact, sport karate). I heard Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is pretty tough as well as Judo if you're into grappling over striking.

If you prefer to learn something traditional or spiritual then Aikido, Tai-Chi (or any other type of Kung-fu) might be for you.

Otherwise if you want to learn something Acrobatic and dynamic then Wu-shu, Capoiera or TaeKwondo might be your thing.

Kiyuge 01-17-2008 01:35 AM

I did Aikido and it was great its basicly stretching of the joints and there is alot of throwing (At the class I did anyways) But I would suggest Aikido ^^

Kir0 01-18-2008 04:10 PM

I do Taekwondo, kickboxing, and ground fighting. Those are all great. If you want to learn alot of diffrent kicks, go with Taekwondo, if you prefer your hands go for boxing, ground fighting(MMA style) is great if you ever wrestled, or just want to try it.

Martial arts are good for you mentally and physically.

One suggestion though, don't just go for any school, look into it, research it. There are some schools that are better than others.

buklao456 02-09-2008 01:55 AM

it really up to you look around see what look good to you rite not im TKD and Judo but ived done muay thai

kokunin 02-22-2008 01:34 PM

even though people say aikido is very spiritual. If you practice it enough that it becomes muscle memory then you will probably incredibly strong without moving so much...lol

the reality is aikido, alot of chinese martial arts, ninjutsu, and most koryu (old school) STRESS, and when i say stress, i mean STRESS technique. Whereas karate, taekwondo, muay thai, pankration, karate and such, might have different moves, but they don't stress technique nearly as much.

kokunin 02-22-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kir0 (Post 361281)
I do Taekwondo, kickboxing, and ground fighting. Those are all great. If you want to learn alot of diffrent kicks, go with Taekwondo, if you prefer your hands go for boxing, ground fighting(MMA style) is great if you ever wrestled, or just want to try it.

Martial arts are good for you mentally and physically.

One suggestion though, don't just go for any school, look into it, research it. There are some schools that are better than others.

MMA i don't like so much...Its made for competition, not for outside battle. Me and my friends used to "spar" but really actually trying to ascert our surpiority over the other so we actually were trying to hurt the other person into submission. If you asked me which i'd choose, I'd say pankration, and/ or muaythai...that's it...brazilian jyu jutsu and japnese jyujutsu just have different airs, but i don't liek how it STICKS to the ground, like you belong on the ground, even though your supposed to stand up. I'm more like the person that if i go down, I'm breaking a hinge joint, simple. Now because people are seeing what is what and how, in and octogaon ring, makes MMA more popular, i don't see why...Yes its awesome, loved it until noone had no new styles, in which case i was like fuck this...

what i really want to do, but can't for reasons that are distrubing are ninjutsu, as my base, northern mantis, ba gua or taichi, piqua and baji....o and aikido or aikijyujutsu...but that'sjust me...lol

aldine 03-26-2008 12:12 AM

Aikido!

-releases tension
-increases flexibility & endurance
-establishes camaraderie among aikidokas
-non competitive (key is harmony!)

Excessum 03-26-2008 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by aldine (Post 436881)
Aikido!

-releases tension
-increases flexibility & endurance
-establishes camaraderie among aikidokas
-non competitive (key is harmony!)


+ It changes the way you think about your opponent and the fight(ing) itself... which helps you see clearly in stressful situations and not only when engaged against an opponent.
I regret sooo much the fact that i left aikido... from all the martial arts i have done, that is the one i would like to return to the most.

Kanji_The_Wanderer 03-26-2008 12:36 AM

I agree with Ronin4Hire. It is definitely about preference. I've noticed a lot of Karate is about strength and power. I did Shotokan-Ryu and it's pretty tough. A lot of physical exercise such as running and sparring.

There is a lot of Katas and demos that they will have you do. Blocking, kicking, and punching is what I was doing most of the time. It didn't get spiritual, or dynamic at all. Lots of grounded stances and fluent movement.

Make sure you know what you want before to decide on something.

QuAtScH 03-30-2008 02:38 AM

well... for the 3rd time today i'll say it again that aikido is really good... lol :D

MissMisa 04-30-2008 05:47 AM

I've always wanted to do some form of martial arts. Either that, or boxing. People just take the piss though because I'm a little girl, so I've never really got into either. When I say I want to do it people are just like LOL and if everyone else is like that there, then I expect I won't be so comfortable.

dere 04-30-2008 06:11 AM

I don't know what you mean... plenty of girls practice martial arts and are really good at it, too! (yeah, even little ones xD)

Myself, I practiced Kung-fu for 6 years, and I'm starting Kendo classes next year.

To the OP, my advice is that you go and watch a class of every martial art you're interested in as an spectator, and then choose from there... You can't really go wrong, almost every martial art is good, you just got to find one that suits you.

MissMisa 04-30-2008 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dere (Post 477888)
I don't know what you mean... plenty of girls practice martial arts and are really good at it, too! (yeah, even little ones xD)

I know. but round my area no-one does it, and if I say I want to do it they just find it funny >.< Which isn't the best encouragement around.

dere 04-30-2008 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 477896)
I know. but round my area no-one does it, and if I say I want to do it they just find it funny >.< Which isn't the best encouragement around.

Then be the first one :D ! Who cares what other people think? Just do it!
You might even start a trend or something :p

Asakura 05-07-2008 05:00 AM

I do BJJ and Taekwondo and both do really well for me. If anyone actually asks what style I do I actually say Jeet Kune Do. I DO practice it but, more so than that I take what works for me from several other styles. While I take classes on BJJ, TKD and JKD I study other arts like Tai chi, Shaolin, and Judo.


Essentaly you can teach yourself martial arts. But 90% of the time it's better to train with a master.

And don't worry about what other people think. Martial arts is a very personal thing. It'll change your lifestyle if you take it far enough.

CrazyLee 05-07-2008 06:35 AM

I'm doing Aikido. Think I'll join in with the Aikido Rules! group we seem to have here....
But, on a more serious note: its about preferance. I do Aikido becuase its not competitive. You don't 'fight' in it. However, if you like sparring (and have seen most any martial arts movie) then go for one like that. It'll be good for you, whichever one you choose.
MissMisa: which part of the UK you in? If your dead certain about wanting to take one up I'll ask around a few friends and see if they know anyone local to you that does something.....(note: too nice for my own good at times)

fox80 05-07-2008 05:43 PM

martial arts
 
well first you must decide why you wanna use martial art is it for self defend or hurting some one ,karate is basic use for hurting opponent and aikido is some thing else in aiki you'r have option ,my suggestion is Ki aikido ,its relaxing its effective develops good posture and balance and require a use of brain :D

TalnSG 05-07-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 477877)
I've always wanted to do some form of martial arts. Either that, or boxing. People just take the piss though because I'm a little girl, so I've never really got into either. When I say I want to do it people are just like LOL and if everyone else is like that there, then I expect I won't be so comfortable.


Those who dismiss your interest in martial arts as a joke don't understand martial arts. Dere is right, there are many women of all sizes and ages that are skilled various martial arts. There are at least two excellent female teachers here. Both of them compete in several different paths of study.

When I was fencing, I wanted to take up kendo. An injury sidelined that, but since then I done a little bit of Tai Chi and plan to phase in more of it as I phase out some of my dance classes.

godwine 05-08-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Asakura (Post 483254)

Essentaly you can teach yourself martial arts. But 90% of the time it's better to train with a master.

Whoa, I would stay off advice like that. You need to know how to kick and punch properly. Half the people I taught THOUGHT that they know how to hold a fist, but most DON'T. If they punch with those "FIST", they will end up losing all fingers

THOUGH, it is true that once you learn the basic, you can practice yourself and master certain technique. Martial art is an exercise AND a sport, but an exercise that empower you to defend yourself. The art of "Fighting" is about mastering the basic technique and combine them together, while applying a strategy to it....

DO GET YOURSELF A QUALIFIED TRAINER IF YOU WANT TO TRAIN IN MARTIAL ART.

What martial art to take, thats a personal prefernce, and depend on what you want to do. Your size, speed and power is all relevant, so you have to take these into consideration.

Asakura 05-08-2008 04:12 PM

What my meaning was was that while it's true that you can teach yourself how to fight. You want to have a master or a sensei or a trainer or whatever.

I think that we where saying the same thing just in different ways. Maby I should have explained my point differently.

Jaydelart 05-08-2008 06:40 PM

I practice no martial arts sports.
However, if I were to choose to learn one, it would be either Muay Thai or Kyokushin Karate. I have great respect for both.

@MissMisa

TalnSG is right. Don't let your peers effect your decision to learn a martial art. It's a commitment; important, life-changing knowledge. Anyone who considers martial arts as a joke simply doesn't understand it.

I'm sure there is at least a few people in your area that practice some form of martial art. And if they can do it... You can do it.

You have our support.

TalnSG 05-08-2008 06:55 PM

MissMisa, have you considered starting with something simple while you search for a good teacher? Though my discpline is lacking and I don't practice nearly enough, I have a good video lesson for Tai Chi exercises and there are even better ones out now on CD. If you have that and a full length mirror you you can begin learning the set of movements on your own until you find a teacher. Then you will probably need some corrrection, but you'll be closer to your goal.

godwine 05-15-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaydelart (Post 484292)
I practice no martial arts sports.
However, if I were to choose to learn one, it would be either Muay Thai or Kyokushin Karate. I have great respect for both.

You have our support.

Both extremely deadly art :) Good choice, the interesting thing is that, with both Muay Thai and Kyokushin, because its heavily emphasize on "true combat", they really know how to train you. Its easy to start and pickup, but very very difficult to master.

Kyokushi was originated from Koryu (I think MOST or ALL Karate is from Koryu), but they don't do too much of the meditation or the forms.....

The other one is Shoto Ryu which have a lot of kicks that resembles Muay Thai kicks.....

Asakura 05-15-2008 04:47 PM

I'm Training to be a Muay Thai boxer, it's difficult, but exetremely rewarding.

SamuraiAlchemistNinja 05-15-2008 06:13 PM

I took a bit of just some mixed martial arts when I was younger...but it was so undifficult and unchallenging and the master seemed like such a joke that I got fed up with it. Now I am considering taking judo lessons, trying to find the right teacher...I will most likely take judo lessons this fall, it seems like it will take effort, which is good. I love a good challenge. :p

godwine 05-15-2008 06:19 PM

MMA is un-challenging? Its either you are really gifted/talented or your teacher is not teaching you anything

SamuraiAlchemistNinja 05-15-2008 06:33 PM

I won't go as far to say I'm gifted. I just pick things up extremely quickly, and if the teacher doesn't acknowledge that, it's annoying to me. Plus, he just...I don't know how to explain it. He was a money-hungry joke, he didn't care about teaching me anything...

Aota 05-15-2008 06:45 PM

Nooooo!!!! Bajiquan! Bajiquan!! >.< It feels so gooooooooooooood.

nothingleft 05-15-2008 06:56 PM

I did self defence when I was little. It was strange, and I can't remember much (apart from being beaten up by my sister) ^_^ To be honest, Taekwondo is the one that appeals most. I'm thinking of taking it up soon, though I'll most likely die from my unhealthy diet and general unfitness :P

I can't believe you could teach yourselves these things though, definitly need a master :D

godwine 05-15-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aota (Post 489630)
Nooooo!!!! Bajiquan! Bajiquan!! >.< It feels so gooooooooooooood.

Yeah, but the problem is you can't even find a real authentic school that teaches Bajiquan

godwine 05-15-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nothingleft (Post 489648)
I did self defence when I was little. It was strange, and I can't remember much (apart from being beaten up by my sister) ^_^ To be honest, Taekwondo is the one that appeals most. I'm thinking of taking it up soon, though I'll most likely die from my unhealthy diet and general unfitness :P

I can't believe you could teach yourselves these things though, definitly need a master :D

TKD is great if you are flexible.... otherwise the stretches will kill you.. I never stopped training in TKD, been training for about 14 years now, trust me, the stretches kill me everytime :)

nothingleft 05-15-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 489664)
TKD is great if you are flexible.... otherwise the stretches will kill you.. I never stopped training in TKD, been training for about 14 years now, trust me, the stretches kill me everytime :)

Brilliant. Bad thing I'm not flexible :D I guess it's good to push yourself sometimes though!

Aota 05-15-2008 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 489660)
Yeah, but the problem is you can't even find a real authentic school that teaches Bajiquan

Exactly what location are you talking about? o.o

But... Bajiquan isn't exactly a good starter. Some people take basic karate as a starter, and then build around that.

Jaydelart 05-16-2008 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 489664)
TKD is great if you are flexible.... otherwise the stretches will kill you.. I never stopped training in TKD, been training for about 14 years now, trust me, the stretches kill me everytime :)

I know I have to stretch - It's important in any martial art... But I hate it immensely. lol

Ronin4hire 05-16-2008 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 490056)
Stretching is not that important. I dont do it and can do kicks at my own head height quite well (I am 186cm) and with ease. If you want to get good at kicking, practice kicking, if you want to get good at stretching, practice stretching, but the two are unrelated. Someone good at stretching is not automatically good at high kicks, and someone good at high kicks, like me, might be poor at stretching, like me. I never do it unless the teacher tells me.

What you can do is "throw" your leg up but I suspect you can't control it. I'm somewhat the same... I can "throw" my leg up past head height quite easily but when it comes to transitioning from one kick to another or when throwing multiple kicks with the same leg I lose height on the subsequent kicks because I'm not as flexible as I'd like to be.

Asakura 05-16-2008 04:59 AM

You don't nessesaraly "have" to stretch. But if you're going into really complicated kicks or manuvers that require you be flexible, it's a good idea, it can avoid injury so it's not totally without merit. But Tenchu has a point in that streaching dosen't automaticly make your limbs powerful.


It's simple anatomy. Streaching your muscles frequently makes them longer and springier. Meaning you can extend, twist, contract, or move with them better. Now there are millions of ways to do this. But the key to becoming flexible is time and practice.

Now just becouse you are flexible,it does not make your techniques perfect. And it does not give you the technique, mental power and raw physical strength that you have to combine with flexibility, that makes your techniques sharp. But Stretching, if you do it conventioanally, or if you just thow lots and lots of kicks and punches, over and over again. Is very important. Anyway you look at it.

Ronin4hire 05-16-2008 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 490084)
Hmn. Not really. At first, yes, I was throwing my leg, about a year ago, but with practice I got control. I can now do a side kick at my head height and hold it after full thrust for about 1 second and then have to retreat it. This is from hours of practice. I saw once, Bruce Lee do the same kick I am talking about, and then hold it there for an extended time. I expect if I keep practicing the kick I will eventually be able to do the same thing. Kicking is stretching, it develops the flexability you need for that kick, and unlike stretching, you practice the technique and power and muscle you need for it at the same time. I see no need to stretch in martial arts unless you think it is good for a cool down to loosen up the muscles. But I just do a slow walk around and shake my body up for this and am fine, so...

I see.. well if you're happy with your ability then that's fine as your kicking will maintain you flexibility but it won't improve it. Personally I find high kicks are beautiful and while Asakura is correct, flexibility is but one factor in the equation, it's a factor that needs to be improved in my case nonetheless to achieve the results I want. Therefore for me stretching is important in training.

Jaydelart 05-16-2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 490056)
Stretching is not that important. I dont do it and can do kicks at my own head height quite well (I am 186cm) and with ease. If you want to get good at kicking, practice kicking, if you want to get good at stretching, practice stretching, but the two are unrelated. Someone good at stretching is not automatically good at high kicks, and someone good at high kicks, like me, might be poor at stretching, like me. I never do it unless the teacher tells me.

I understand what you mean.

In my case, however, some of my training involves various dodging maneuvers that require a significant amount of flexibility and control to perform. Therefore, it is essential for me to stretch.
Muay Thai fighters (like yourself) generally don't flip or roll during a fight, so it's somewhat understandable that you wouldn't emphasize stretching to the same degree.

Different martial arts may encourage stretching at different levels -- but recognition of it's importance exists, nonetheless. It provides many of benefits.

~ But that still doesn't change the fact that I hate doing it, of course.


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