Xbox 360 - What's wrong with it ?
 

Hello there . I'm new to this forum so please don't be too harsh . A quick introduction ...I'm 16 , male, Canadian and live in the outskirts of Toronto .
I noticed how bad the xbox 360 was doing in sales in Japan and I wondered why that is ? I mean I have it and it's a really good console. Like the games don't appeal to you or you do you think it's bad like the first one ? Please answer only if you live in Japan but everyone is open to discussion.

RROD, it being Microsoft, no past history of success in Japan. Then there's games that don't really appeal to the japanese crowd. Sales have been picking up a little recently due to a lot of RPGs coming to 360.

But FFIV isn't coming to the 360 in japan lol.

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the first xbox i got failed (not RROD tho) it has something like a 36% failure rate compared to PS3's 0.2%

iv had both xbox360 and PS3 i ended up selling them both - i miss the PS3 more.

The only wrong thing with XBox360 is the fact that it unfortunatelly exists.

Really the reason Xbox 360 isn't selling as well in Japan is because it has to compete with Nintendo who really own the Japanese game market.

There just aren't enough games that appeal to the Japanese market on 360. It will be interesting to see if this changes with all of the RPGs on the way, but it may be too little too late.

I think Japanese want system that is made by Japanese, just like americans like system made by them

that's not true.
The nintendo systems have done REALLY well in America....

anyways, I think AcidReptile has a point!

But Japanese want system from Japan, more than american system

that could be true...
but that's not why the XBOX sucks...

They bet all their money on the head-start they'd get by releasing it a year before all the competition, and they didn't put all the testing into the system they should have... as is present given the failure rate, when compared to the other two Next-Gen systems..

amen to that.

xbox doesn't appeal to me in any way because i don't like the games that are made for it. i've heard that it has a lot of problems too. like overheating?

*shrug* never owned one. never will.

The only good thing the Xbox had going for it last gen, was that when it came to sports games it had the edge over the PS2, it had a newer graphics chip which enabled it to have bette graphics, and allowed the game to perform better. (even though the PS2 sold better)

this generation.... they're weak... not that I liked them before... jsut saying..

Practically. Like we Americans crave pure American things. It's not really a big deal. I mean, it's just a gaming console. :/

This.

The original Xbox didn`t have the type of games to appeal to the Japanese market... So there is no real expectation that the 360 will have them either. And at this point, Microsoft is marketing the 360 as what it is in the US - a console known for FPS. The thing is, FPS don`t really appeal to the Japanese market. Even if it`s a great game, in general people in Japan don`t really like western(?) character designs. It`s hard to make a system look appealing when you`re bragging about it being great for something someone doesn`t have all that much interest in to begin with.

The PS3 also doesn`t have much out that appeals to normal Japanese gamers. Sure, MGS came out, but other than that the selection is very slim. However, people who enjoyed the PS2 have the expectation that good games will eventually come out on the PS3 too.

It`s silly to say it`s simply because Japan doesn`t like to buy things not made in Japan, or that there is a prejudice against the system, etc...

The biggest problem is this - The system barely sells, but those it does sell are sold largely to people who enjoy the type of games popular on the 360 in the US (FPS, Racing, etc) -> Microsoft misreads this, and pushes those games -> The same niche market becomes even stronger fans, so those who aren`t part of the niche market come to see the 360 as something ONLY for those people -> Stronger fans in the niche market buy more games that don`t appeal to a wider Japanese audience -> Again, more marketing focusing on the type of games that ARE selling -> Repeat endlessly.

They need to find some way to escape that circle. Hopefully Tales can help to some extent, as Blue Dragon was seriously botched... And Trusty Bell + Lost Odyssey didn`t have the power to fix that.

lol, dude... I'm pretty sure you havn't even played it properly. :rolleyes:

I heard, lately, it's slowly becoming more popular in Japan.

I prefer Xbox(Microsoft) over Nintendo and Sony.
Nintendo doesn't have enough mature games; Sony (PS) - at least, while PS2 is involved - has a lot of games... But (a) their controllers are ugly and can really slow down gameplay, and (b) their consoles are very fragile; they break easily... And not just internally, but externally, they are less durable than an Xbox; Therefore, Xbox wins.

-- Sorry for the off-topic info: I'm feeling wordy today. :rolleyes:

your right about nintendo games, but your smoking crack if you really think PS breaks easily lol.

ill take the 0.2% failrute rate over the 36% FR anyday thanks (thats internally) i duno about externally.

but RROD can occure if your 360 gets knocked over and it rips up the disc. they should of made the X360 box just a giant red caution sign.

DO NOT TOUCH AT ALL, MAY CAUSE RROD. lol

lol, dude, microsoft replace the consoles anyway, so what's the problem? If you really wanna talk about the FR's, then why not mention PS2? That had a disgusting rate of failures, but that never stopped it from being one of the best games consoles ever :rolleyes:

me personally? i dont care. but no one can say that PS3's are "less durable" than X360s cause.. its false. iv had both PS3 and 360 the first 360 i got was broken.. but the place i got it from gave me a refund and i went to another store and got one. but like i said me personally i dont mind, alltho i was a little pissed off that my first 360 was broken. i live in a tourist destination coastal town. and drove 40 minutes each way to get my 360 is microsoft gona refund the money i spent on petrol? there to get a 360 which was broken back home to see its broken back to the store to get a refund back home to finally play an xbox that wasnt broken.

actually typing thas has made me pretty pissed off microsoft can blow me iv never really thought about it before.

but apart from my rant.. i still like the X360 but no.. its not as durable as the PS3.. which was the point of my previous post ><

That's what everyone argues about Nintendo, but at least they are starting to do something about it. Things like GTA DS, Call of Duty and things we already have like Zelda and Resident Evil could possibly switch things around. To be honest, I have no interest in games which would be classed as 'mature,' unless they are something like Zelda and I also can't wait for Project Zero/Fatal Frame, which is a hella scary game, much more so than Resident Evil or anything. So anyone who has a Wii and wants a mature game, get your hands on that.

I don't mind Microsoft, I probably only slightly like it more than the PS3. I have one, but I'd only really use it for multi-format games, like GTA, Guitar Hero and Rock Band. There is actually nothing I want on the PS3 that isn't already on the Xbox to be honest, but that's just me.

hahaha, dude... shame on you for wasting your petrol. Microsoft send you a new one.:rolleyes:

ps, that travelling thing is nonsense to say the least. lol... Next thing you'll be complaining about is why won't microsoft pay for your petrol everytime you go and buy a game, or every time you wanna return/trade a game.

o_0 Why do people say "we" when talking about nintendo????

how are they gona send me a new one if i dont take the broken one back? (broken straight out the box)

and shouldnt their product work in the first place? theres no excuse for selling dodgy merchandise because thats what it all comes down too. what else are you gonna call a 36% failure rate?

I assume your making reference to my post?

It can be used to describe anything... 'we' meaning, 'we, the gaming audience.'

Like saying, 'If we watch a horror film, we normally get scared.' Meaning the audience, it's the same as saying 'If the audience watches a horror film, they usually get scared.' But with the inclusion of yourself.

If that makes sense.

They send someone to collect it dude. At least thats what they did before... Dunno how it works now. Been a while since I've left the games retail business.

Yeah I was making reference to you, but you post more reminded me of a couple friends I have. They only ever say "we" when it's about nintendo. Might sound wierd, but sounds like nintendo fans are more family like, haha...

And yeah, I get what you mean. I wasn't questioning the english. I was more trying to see why nintendo fans say "we". Prob just me being crazy :D

Yeah I was just trying to say that it can be used in other situations and I personally don't use it for just Nintendo and it would be kind of weird if peole did! I don't really think it's got anything to do with Nintendo, but using 'we' seems to include yourself, so maybe that's why.

It's definitely the games that cause the low sales. If you follow Media Create sales charts on a weekly basis there's always a spike in 360 hardware sales when a game that the (general) japanese gaming audience wants.

Like Ace Combat, Ninja Gaiden, Blue Dragon, Lost Oddesy, for examples.

Actually, unless it's changed drastically in the last couple of months, the failure rate for the XB360 is 16.4% and for the Wii and PS3 it's around 3%.

nowadays, there is a lot of new Xbox 360 games which hits top 10 game charts and probably this is the oppurtunity for Xbox to shine back in Japan??

not always true, my friend is an avid Microsoft lover...
He's gone through 4 Xbox's.
The first three times, he sent it in and they replaced it.
The most recent time they actually told him to buy a new one himself..

what the hell kind of customer service is that..


here's his MS so you can ask him yourself..
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Haha, I would've told him to bugger off when he tried to replace it the second time...:rolleyes:

Interesting i have had 2 360's and 2 PS3 i didnt have any problems with my 360 i sold the first so i could buy the one with the HDMI connection. My first PS3 bluray drive crashed the second overheated for no apparent reason. I never bothered to replace it. I might once Sony actually gets a good line up of games that i want to play. I dont give a damn if its made in american or japan as long as i like the games and it works right now 360 is where its at for me and PS3 is still lagging in sales worldwide compared to the Wii and the 360. Sony is playing catch up at this point.

OK, young gamers. Answer granpa a question if you would be so kind. i play xbox, mostly fps. Never had a problem, but lately when I play Far Cry too much I come off feeling all dizzy for the rest of the day. Am I on the edge of some exotic siezure? Has anyone noticed or heard of something similar with this game in particular. Only happens with far Cry. Maybe I'm just getting old.

naw, that's just xbox for ya

Thread Breakdown:

Wii - For little kids.
PS3 - For RPG/Adventure Fans
Xbox 360 - For FPS and Sports titles. Console itself has the highest failure rate out of all of them. The reason they replace - free of cost - the system is because they used crappy soldering material that melts to the chipsets when overheating.

I personally am an RPG/FPS/RTS Fan. As an American it matters little to me who makes the system, and I think it's silly to choose your favorite form of entertainment in this way. What's important is how great the gameplay is and how involving the story is.

My Xbox360 lasted 3 years of good use before I got the RROD and it's in the mail now. I'll be getting it back soon. Can't wait to pick it up and play halo3 some more :)

I haven't bothered going out for a PS3 yet because I haven't seen any good games released for it. Besides, I have all the RPGs I need between World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy Tactics on my PSone!

You have no clue what you're talking about. Since, y'know all Microsoft has done mainly is get a mass of JRPGs onto their console. Tales of Vesperia for example is a 360 exclusive and released in Japan first. It's already sold 120k copies and apparently the 360 is sold out all over Japan at the moment.

But uh, kay. You know where it's at, forgot.

What about Blue Dragon? That's a Japanese developed 360 game.

Same goes for Infinite Undiscovery, Lost Oddesy, Trusty Bell (Eternal Sonata in NA), Star Ocean 4, Tales of Vesperia, The Last Remnant, Ninja Gaiden 2, Ace Combat 6, and a few others.

Uh, because gamers LOVE to do this, don't get me wrong. I don't think much of the 360 and doubt I'll buy one for myself but I can't stand it when people are wrong about shit like this.

Don't worry about him... He's anti-USA...

lol, next time you think I'm anti-america, you should read his posts. lol:D