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Yuna7780 03-27-2009 11:59 PM

You sound like a businessman, Tsuruneru... Please don't try to sell us something that sounds illegal... >>;;

Ronin4hire 03-28-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by iPhantom (Post 688569)
Problem is this relies on internet. Lags are common for some people so I doubt it's playable the same as consoles.

Consoles are still here to stay.

For the moment anyway... unless you are saying that there is no way communications technology can become much better.

Aniki 03-28-2009 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsuruneru (Post 688425)
Being an online, streaming service, OnLive is only going to be as good as your Internet connection. High-definition resolutions will require a higher-end broadband connection, and if your service is prone to drop out unexpectedly, you're probably going to wind up frustrated. Even if it works, all that streaming video's going to add up over the months, and heavy users might find themselves the receipient of some unwelcome attention from their ISPs. Modem users, needless to say, need not apply.

This pretty sums it all.

My conclusion - it's gonna fail.

Ronin4hire 03-28-2009 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Aniki (Post 689323)
This pretty sums it all.

My conclusion - it's gonna fail.

What if you have a good internet connection?

MMM 03-28-2009 07:20 AM

Some members of JF seem to think DL is not the wave of the future. As a person who has seen music go from albums to cassettes to CDs over the last 20 years, it is not shocking that DL is how people will get music.

superheel 03-28-2009 07:28 AM

I really have nothing against games being downloadable in the future. But for now? Eh. I mean, not all people have lightning speed internet connection. Also, that would consume a lot of hard drive spaces, that's why CDs still has the advantages because there's more spaces in there. I don't see a transition from CD-DVD to DL anytime soon, maybe a transition to Blu-Ray will happen first.

Nyororin 03-28-2009 10:04 AM

I think that downloading games is the future - but streaming games is not. At least not for a while. I don`t believe this system will be able to pull it off.

Why? For one, the most obvious neck to the average person, is that most of the US (the largest market for games) does not have steady broadband.
But let`s ignore that, and say that they offer a wonderful plan that gets everyone connected at the speed necessary to stream the games.

A server, somewhere, is going to have to do the rendering.
One user for testing? EASY. Ten users at a convention display? No problem. 1000 user in a beta test? Sure, can do that.

100,000 users? 500,000 users? Let`s say it sells only a quarter of what the PS3 has sold (it being the worst selling of this generation`s hardware)...

We`re talking about 5 million users with the potential to be online at once expecting LATENCY FREE rendering.

HAHAHAHAHA

This is an interesting idea that just simply doesn`t scale well.

Aniki 03-28-2009 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 689348)
What if you have a good internet connection?

Even if you have a good internet connection, there are still problems you can face. I'm imagining this console will work like Youtube. And as a person who has good in internet connection I still get problems while watching videos. Similar problems might/will occur with this OnLive console.
Just like the article stated you get too dependent on from your internet connection. Everyone, once in a while get this problem when the internet connection cuts out, and that would mean that you can't play any games until it gets back online. And lets not forget that not everyone in the world has access to a reliable broadband service.

BucktheWolf 04-16-2009 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by iPhantom (Post 688569)
Problem is this relies on internet. Lags are common for some people so I doubt it's playable the same as consoles.

Consoles are still here to stay.

The consoles seem to do pretty well with their internet gaming...
Isn't WoW an internet game?
There's lag, but people groan and get over it.
The internet is not the problem. It's the streaming vs. downloading a hard copy.

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Originally Posted by superheel
I don't see a transition from CD-DVD to DL anytime soon, maybe a transition to Blu-Ray will happen first.

That already happened. So did downloading games. Nintendo's had downloadable games since SNES.

I see potential in this, something small and portable with a good supply of rentable games that you don't have to LUG EVERYWHERE...

If they were to become big enough, they could have enough server power, or they may have found a way to streamline streaming (YouTube doesn't seem like the most advanced streaming system; I'm reluctant to think that it's comparable to what the game company has in mind).

Also, it can't be terribly, terribly difficult to have a save-state machine that saves your progress every 10 seconds so that if you're disconnected, you can start roughly where you were when it ended. Or something similar.

This is a broad subject covered in a tiny article in a thread post. There's probably so much more that is going into consideration, or that could go into consideration, after the original release.

Guigoo 08-11-2009 04:25 PM

the point is not that this new tech might outcome consoles. i think that people wouldnt be so worried about the cloud computing feat it offers but about the gameplay.

its the same things as PC vs. VG. although PCs beat VG graphics so bad people don't give up on games just because theyre more proper to play than PC or other attempts to replace it


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