yea i know i was just saying.

God knows, MMM, where we have disagreed over the past year on many things, I think when ever the issue comes up, we have always agreed here!

If you get into CC and get good grades then you can then transfer into a university.

what is CC? community college?

Yes, it is. I took some summer courses at a community college with a name that was also two Cs. Thus, it was CCCC. :D

lol! what class did you take?

Geology, Alegebra for Non-Technical Majors, and two of my French credits.

I had heard the math and science courses, which counted towards my degree, were easier at the community college than at my university. I took the French credits just because I wanted them out of the way. I could have taken Japanese, but at the time, I was more interested in the bottom line to my GPA than I was where my future might lie beyond graduation. That, of course, changed later, but I can hardly claim I was always an industrious worker in university at all times. No one would believe me even if I did, am I right? :P

lol im going for drafting most likely architecture ^^

BA holders in Japan without work? How do you live in Japan without work? Just out of pure wealth? Maybe I'm just missing something here... and what do you mean by "already have a visa?"

The same way the 8.5% of the unemployed in North America live without work.

Work visas can be one, two, or three years long. I have quite a bit of time on my visa right now. If I was fired, I still have my visa. Japan will not ask me to leave. I will have until the end of my visa to either a) locate another job to sponsor my renewal b) prove income above ¥200,000/month to self-sponsor.

oh yea i wasnt arguing with you either, i can tell an intelligent person when i see one, and clearly you are, i just wanted to clarify what i had meant. yea uga was str8, not enough black ppl tho, lol my older brother went there too and he was going to harvard BUT he ran out of money and he didnt want to take a student loan in this economy not to mention a scholarship wouldnt be enough to handle that expensive ass school, i was shocked to see he was qualified to get in tho, he had a 3.8 at uga but i didnt know that was good enough, i guess it was his extracurricular things that got him in...but yea, teaching is a hard job, ppl dont realize that teachers are the ones that make sure that your lives are easier...i used to think any could teach as long as you had a clear understanding of the material until i got to 9th grade and my geometry teacher couldnt teach worth a damn and i pretty much had to learn everything on my own, but i've had some teachers that made the material easy like my ap physics teacher, teachers like them ill never forget, its hard work! i remember having to teach 9th graders when i was in 12th how to use auto CAD for drafting, i had a headache after that day lol.
and i HATE ga tech, ha and uga really, but uga opens the door for me to be able to go to other schools.

So a CC would be acceptable as long as it's "nationally accredited?"

No one really answered this...

There's a small @ss private community college out in the middle of nowhere here in NC, and if I must I would attend there and get some bachelor's degree in something (just to have a degree) But I have no clue if it's "nationally accredited" or not. Anyone know? Yes, no, maybe, probably. I know nothing.

I don't read the NYT, I don't know how 8.5% of unemployed people in America survive...

One of the defining features of a Community or Junior college is that they don't offer bachelor's degrees. They only offer associates degrees. So no, a degree from a community college generally wouldn't be enough to get you into Japan. However, if properly accredited you can transfer the credits or degree you earn at a community college to University and ultimately your bachelor's degree will be considerably cheaper and you might finish your bachelor's degree up to a year earlier. You should also look at earning college credits while still in highschool. This has become more common around the US and typically the credits you earn are free or at a greatly reduced cost

Stang Guy is right. A two-year associates degree is not the general requirement. In general a bachelor's degree (4-year) is required.

In my state unemployment is over 11%. It has doubled in numbers in the last two years.

Most of my friends are college graduates, but I have one friend I went to college with who ultimately didn't graduate. He has been unemployed for over a year, despite applying to literally hundreds of job openings.

Having that degree definitely makes a difference, whether you want to go to Japan or not.

No, because a Community College is only for two years. Most people go to a Community College for two years and then transfer over to a four-year university, to finish up the remaining two years and get their BA/BS.As mentioned above, at a Community College, you can only obtain an Associates Degree. The requirement for a Visa is a Bacehlor's. You go to CC for two years and then transfer over to a University.

I'm sure you were taught this or your high school counselor went over the options you have after graduating from high school. To be honest, we were getting taught about this type of stuff as early as Elementary School around here. Not sure if that's the norm even now but it was for when I attended school (1986 - 1999).With a strict budget I suppose. *One of the 8.5% despite the fact that my state doesn't have a high unemployment rate compared to others*

Edit: Just noticed that the question had been answered. That aside, I pretty much went the route above. I did two years of CC, but I got a job, so I never did finish up to get my Associates from there because of the job. After I lost my job in 2007, I looked into Universities to finish up, since I knew a degree would help me in my job search. I transferred what I had over from the CC over to a University, and now I'll be done this upcoming June. ^_^ IMO, that's definitely the easiest, and more than likely, cheapest, route to take. I do have a student loan payment, but it's way lower compared most people's I'm sure.

Well, people who work are entitled to something called Unemployment insurance.

People who aren't eligible for UI may choose to temporarily move in with some friends/relatives or collect something called welfare.

Doesn't last long.Not everyone is entitled to welfare. For the most part, seems that mostly those who have children are the ones who fit the criteria to get that. What about single people, no dependents, no children, etc.?

Move back in with their parents.

They move back in with their parents. It's actually very common in Japan - especially with women, hence the term "parasite single".

As for myself, I was in university back in the early 90's during our last recession. My parents wouldn't pay a cent towards my tuition fees so I ended up joining the army reserve. Two days a week, one weekend per month and a few months during the summer got me through those tough times.

My mother received a Bachelors Degree in Criminal Justice at Mt. Olive College which is a private community college.

I don't understand why everyone has said you can not receive a Bachelor's Degree at a CC, when my own mother did it. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Nowhere I can find on the Mt. Olive College website does it say it is a "community college".

Mount Olive College

Well I must have been mistaken. Talking about college is like a foreign language to me.

So all in all, Mount Olive College would be acceptable in Japan's eyes, MMM?

and in criminal justice, thats a degree that there can never be too many of.
there can never be too many police officers, doctors, ppl in the military and or government jobs, hospital technicians, civil servants. that kinda of job is always needed.

Agreed if you're talking about America.

But I don't think Japan will hire me for any of the positions that you've just said, with or without a degree in Criminal Justice.

oh yea i was talking about america
you cant have a gov job in japan u have to be a citizen. cant be a dr in japan unless your damn good probably, but if you were in some cases why would you want to be, you could do just fine or better in america, same as a civil servant, you have to be a citizen.

Indeed.....

Yes, if you got a B.A. or a B.S. degree. Associate degrees would not count.

Also...


MMM, where did you attend college? I'm assuming Mt. Olive woule suffice for means of obtaining a Bachelor's Degree, but they offer no classes that I am remotely interested in...whatsoever.

Thanks for the assurance.

if you want to up your chances get a masters degree
after i graduate im going to get my masters degree

No offense but you will probably only be able to get a job in Japan as an English teacher.
As many have said before, the thinking of the Japanese:
Why hire an American (or any other foreigner) to do a job, having us spend
money on sponsorships when we have a country full of able bodied people?

I'm moving to Japan in late 2010 on a spousal visa, I can apply for any job I wish, no offense taken, bro! :vsign:

(except for the one's that require master's...like...all the high-paying jobs.)

EDIT: I said this because I won't need sponsorship. Just improvement in my Japanese.

I was referring to receiving stuff like welfare. I doubt one without dependents would really be entitled to receiving any.

Seriously? That's awesome haha. How're you managing to do that? Arn't you my age and you have a spouse planned out already?

thats what i want to know too. arranged marriage??? are you an heir to a fortune? did u find one piece??

Yep! Well.......
It's because I'm pro.


The actual procedure is really a pain in the rear to go through, but it's well worth it.

Like....you have to have one of their family members mail a letter to the Japanese Embassy closest to them...which is a big inconvenience.

I think most people frown on this, because it's a short cut in a sense. It bypasses all the going to college, looking for a job, getting sponsored things, and takes you straight to Japan.

Are you asking me a question? Are you talking about the Spousal Visa? I didn't understand what you're saying at all...it's really not that complicated of a procedure. Just a pain in the butt...but very possible.

The birthrate in Japan has dropped for 28 consecutive years. Japan has the least number of children and the most elderly in the world. Eventually there will indeed be a lack of able-bodied people. Healthcare and blue collar manufacturing jobs already rely on foreign workers. Due to Japan's lack of desire or inability, whichever it may be, to have children, it must embrace immigration or just... die. There are constantly newspaper articles about this here.

Yep! I've heard this quite a lot.

Here in North Carolina, I see more Latin descendants who don't know more than a few sentences of English working in low-paying jobs, than actual US citizens.

@alanx
nah i was pretty much asking how you found a female in japan to marry already when your so young, but idk if you've been to japan b4 or not, and it looked like you didnt have any plans to go to college so i was wondering how you were going to support her.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a lack of desire. More women want to be career women in Japan now-a-days, right? They're opting out of the housewife stuff or the traditional role of one...so I read a good while back anyway.