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Isaa 01-24-2009 03:43 AM

Japanese Girls, American Girls
 
This would be especially appreciated if anyone living, or who has lived in Japan could add to. It is common that there is a generalization from both Asians and some Americans that "American girls are smug, superior, and spoiled". I would like to know what people consider the general qualities of a modern Asian (or Japanese) female, perhaps around the age of 20, and what people consider an American female to behave around the same age. Who is easier to be with in a romantic relationship, who is more likely to do something for their community, who is more likely to be a loyal friend? Who is more likely to put so much emphasis on beauty? Why is this generalization made?

RegPaq 01-24-2009 04:00 AM

Living in Orange County, girls here just want to look good to other people. So as long as they can get their brand name purses and jeans and have a good looking boyfriend, they are set! Yes, they think they are better than everyone and you have to be cool for them to hang out with you. in other words quite shallow. What is cool? if you keep trying to talk to her and ask her out she will avoid you completely. If you ignore them, they will come to you. They want what they can't have. But these girls are the prettier girls that know how to take care of themselves. I despise these types of women. Thus ignoring them and all of a sudden they start calling me and random girls approach me. if you want them you have to act like you dont want them to get them. But not every american girl is like this. but its a fair rule around here. but don't get me wrong. everyonce in a while you will find a diamond in the rough.

Ronin4hire 01-24-2009 04:00 AM

This thread is probably going to piss me off...

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Who is easier to be with in a romantic relationship, who is more likely to do something for their community, who is more likely to be a loyal friend? Who is more likely to put so much emphasis on beauty?
Depends on the person. Ask yourself this question... does being American/Japanese make you inherently more/less likely to fit the above criteria?

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Why is this generalization made?
Same reason most generalisations are made. It's either an observed and common phenomenon amongst a particular group... or it's made out of ignorance and bias. For this one I'm going for the latter.

MMM 01-24-2009 04:01 AM

You are asking for stereotypes of American girls and Japanese girls. I think your stereotype of American girls is just that, a stereotype, and intelligent Asian and American women don't think that of American women that age.

I don't think any of those questions can be answered without making dangerous and sweeping generalizations.

Koir 01-24-2009 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 668512)
This thread is probably going to piss me off...

Yet you still posted in it. Call me confused, but one possible course of action was to not post in it at all, and seethe in private.

RegPaq 01-24-2009 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 668512)
Depends on the person. Ask yourself this question... does being American/Japanese make you inherently more/less likely to fit the above criteria? Same reason most generalizations are made. It's either an observed and common phenomenon amongst a particular group... or it's made out of ignorance and bias.

I think so as well

Ronin4hire 01-24-2009 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 668515)
Yet you still posted in it. Call me confused, but one possible course of action was to not post in it at all, and seethe in private.

Don't be confused... Usually if you have something to say regarding the matter in a FORUM you say it.

I had something to say on the matter... and said it.

MMM 01-24-2009 04:05 AM

From the very first post this one is on thin ice, so let's not do anything to push it further than it needs.

RegPaq 01-24-2009 04:07 AM

*eating popcorn*

Isaa 01-24-2009 04:07 AM

I think something can get you angry but that doesn't mean you don't have something to say about it, if you're willing to counter. It made sense to me, at least.

RegPaq 01-24-2009 04:11 AM

and going back to topic..
all the Japanese women i have met that have came here to study English seem to have a lot more about them than American girls and are not as shallow. but thats an opinion from only a little more than a handful of themm

Isaa 01-24-2009 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RegPaq (Post 668524)
and going back to topic..
all the Japanese women i have met that have came here to study English seem to have a lot more about them than American girls and are not as shallow. but thats an opinion from only a little more than a handful of themm

Perhaps it depends on who you're interacting with. I have never been to California but the social situations are much different (so I hear) than what I am used to. I don't know many Japanese women, but there is one that I help with her English and she seems quite sweet. I can't really say how "shallow" she is or isn't as the time we have is limited. Then again, when someone is willing to set aside their life in a comfortable homeland and travel abroad to study, that takes courage, and willingness to accept a completely new culture and drop all bias.

Isaa 01-24-2009 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 668530)
It depends on the person. Different nationalities commonly produce a certain persona or character. Even the different states in America are worth noteing when you meet an American, as each state seems to produce a different type of character. But, in the end, it depends on the person.

I agree that it depends on the person. Personality reverts to cognitive learning; what one has learned in his or her experiences through growing up. But then again, with all things considered, America is an Individualistic society, while Japan (though now moving towards Individualistic) is a Collectivist society. That means while Americans are focused on self- independence, getting a job, being solely financially stable, and having the idea that it is "every man for himself", it is more common that Japanese will say, I am "A mother", "A sister", "A student", viewing themselves in a network, realizing the picture around them. I believe this greatly impacts personal character, while the more specific things are compilations of events and the persons reactions to them, in life.

jasonbvr 01-24-2009 12:51 PM

You should be a bit more specific. By American do you mean white girls? And by Asian I assume you mean girls who have lived their whole life in an East Asian country? And you can't even group them all together either. There are huge cultural differences between Korean, Chinese and Japanese girls.

Forget about all of that anyways because on some level all women are the same regardless of ethnicity, but on a deeper level everyone is a unique individual.

Iftikhar 01-24-2009 02:48 PM

I think Japanese girls are more caring as compared to American girls.

bELyVIS 01-24-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 668515)
Yet you still posted in it. Call me confused, but one possible course of action was to not post in it at all, and seethe in private.

It's because he believes his opinions are more intelligent than the rest of us. (They aren't)

godwine 01-24-2009 03:22 PM

People act differently due to various circumstances, and most of it has to do with the environment they grow up in, then of course, there is also the factor of their own personality and how they choose to apply their life experience. You can have shallow and "easy" Japanese girl, Chinese girl, American girl, Canadian girl... etc etc etc... It has a lot to do with how one idividual grow up

If you put a Japanese girl and an American girl side by side, and assume they have the exact same background and exposure, and that their personality and character is similar/same, their behavior is likely to be very similar too

It is not up to us to judge what is right and what is wrong, we can't generalize it base on our own experience. Much of what we know are highly dictated by what is deemed to be a socially acceptable behavior.

A girl growing up in Tokyo in a rich family will definitely act differently than a girl growing up in the Furano flower field. Many things are considered normal, right, the necessities to Tokyo girl could meant something totally different to the Furano girl.....

Just my 2 cents

Godwine, I think you summed it up perfectly. As was requested by more than one user, I will close this thread here.


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