I don't consider it "old fashioned." More like "common courtesy." I do get mixed reactions, especially for being courteous in Japan, but it's always appreciated.

I wish there were more men in the states that behaved with that kind of courteous behavior for in the states it is called old fashioned to treat a woman like a human being with feelings. Only a 60 year old man seems to behave that way anymore, but I am sure Japan is different.

It's worse.

well i don't know when i do not open doors for girls. i catch myself looking at reflections in glass to see if there is a women behind me in order to open the door for her when i am walking in/out somewhere.

i don't think it is old fashion thing. specially seeing how i'm 19. it's one of those things guys should do and that's it :cool:

I agree.. i think what helped stop the common curtesy is women who tell men not to open doors for them and say things like "I can do it myself" and get pissed. Men know women can open doors... They are just being polite. if i see another girl walk up behind me I hold the door open too...

I prefer to avoid those areas, as you don't know what it's under that puddle, and seeing the girl disappear from your arm isn't pleasant :D , but besides this, I can think of myself as old fashioned.

Like has been said, it's just common courtesy. I'll hold open doors for anyone just behind me, I don't always get thanks but I do it nontheless. I'm courteous to old women and pregnant women especially it's just what you do. I can be old fashioned and gentlemanly, it's just the way I am. I've stopped guys (2 on 1) harrassing a girl even though she clearly said no. I got into trouble for it, but the girl was grateful and that's what matters. I'd step up again if needed to.

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Well, this is complicated. First of all modern women are (to a degree) responsible for this. When I sometimes observe what girls are doing and how they behave I am wondering if they are a completely new species. Same goes to the guys, but that's beside the point here. I guess it is a side effect of fast life, lack of face-to-face communication and degradation of basic social interactions. In Japan it is ridiculous. Last time I saw a family of 3, sitting in a food court. eating lunch on Sunday while ... playing nintendo. All f. three of them. If you don't call it retarded I do not really know what you should call it.

With the jacket over a wet spot. That is not being a gentleman, but being an idiot. You walk around it not through it. Honestly...

If you treat woman like a queen you give her too much room to think, and do more damage than good. You need to treat her with respect, but far from being a queen. In fact, if I was a woman and someone treated me like a queen, I'd get bored and most likely vomit.

Instead of throwing your jacket on the puddle, better talk to her and spend some time with her discovering her inner self. She will appreciate it much more than dramatic gestures observed in cheesy Hollywood movies from the 60s.

I've never quite understood throwing a jacket in a puddle. I think it started out as a drycleaners conspiracy to get more cash :D

Haha :D

Oh this thread is gonna be fun.

Something i've always wanted to know is why do guys leave the loo seat up?

(if you don't then good for you)

And if a girl was say, humble in the chest area, does it really make a difference to if you ask her out?