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ryuhebi13 03-06-2011 08:16 PM

Ask the guys
 
Total props and kudos to @missprincess for this one. I've stolen her idea and even some of her words, read on:

Girls! Ladies! Women! Now is your chance to ask the guys any questions about being a guy, relationships, what's so special about sports, why we leave the toilet seat up and in some cases, even borrow your eyeliner :p

Don't be shy! This is a golden opportunity to see how us guys think and what makes us tick.

So guys, treat the JF ladies nice and ladies get asking the JF guys....

:vsign:

ryuhebi13 03-06-2011 11:01 PM

No takers yet?

shu 03-06-2011 11:59 PM

i dont think many females use this website.

RobinMask 03-07-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shu (Post 854700)
i dont think many females use this website.

Are you kidding? I think I've seen more females than males on this site, lol. I'm tempted to say that people have lots of questions for the girls as they're so complex, but guys . . . who needs to ask questions, they're far too simple for that ;) Seriously though, I can't think of any questions, but I'd be interested to hear what other people ask :)

Ryzorian 03-07-2011 04:13 AM

Eh, I'm a white male, and deep down all white males want to take over the world...least according to school.

WingsToDiscovery 03-07-2011 04:39 AM

Rules of the internet
Men are men.
Women are men.
Children are cops.

Gackt21 03-07-2011 04:47 AM

What are your opinions on old fashion men guys? Do any still exist in the age group of 21-30?

MMM 03-07-2011 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gackt21 (Post 854726)
What are your opinions on old fashion men guys? Do any still exist in the age group of 21-30?

I don't understand this question.

Gackt21 03-07-2011 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 854727)
I don't understand this question.

Okay when I mean old fashion, do you open the doors for women, go down slipper steps for she goes down to help her so she does not slip, or put your jacket over a wet spot so she does not get wet feet? How many of you do this? Do you treat a woman like a queen and lead her when she needs the help to make the connections. Women are known as the emotional creatures a lot of the time and needs the firm direction of a man. This is what I understand as old fashion and not well respected by today's men through the media.

MMM 03-07-2011 05:05 AM

Aha, you mean "old fashioned".

WingsToDiscovery 03-07-2011 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gackt21 (Post 854726)
What are your opinions on old fashion men guys? Do any still exist in the age group of 21-30?

I don't consider it "old fashioned." More like "common courtesy." I do get mixed reactions, especially for being courteous in Japan, but it's always appreciated.

Gackt21 03-07-2011 05:20 AM

I wish there were more men in the states that behaved with that kind of courteous behavior for in the states it is called old fashioned to treat a woman like a human being with feelings. Only a 60 year old man seems to behave that way anymore, but I am sure Japan is different.

WingsToDiscovery 03-07-2011 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gackt21 (Post 854734)
but I am sure Japan is different.

It's worse.

evanny 03-07-2011 05:51 AM

well i don't know when i do not open doors for girls. i catch myself looking at reflections in glass to see if there is a women behind me in order to open the door for her when i am walking in/out somewhere.

i don't think it is old fashion thing. specially seeing how i'm 19. it's one of those things guys should do and that's it :cool:

junicorn 03-07-2011 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by evanny (Post 854740)
well i don't know when i do not open doors for girls. i catch myself looking at reflections in glass to see if there is a women behind me in order to open the door for her when i am walking in/out somewhere.

i don't think it is old fashion thing. specially seeing how i'm 19. it's one of those things guys should do and that's it :cool:

I agree.. i think what helped stop the common curtesy is women who tell men not to open doors for them and say things like "I can do it myself" and get pissed. Men know women can open doors... They are just being polite. if i see another girl walk up behind me I hold the door open too...

protheus 03-07-2011 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gackt21 (Post 854730)
put your jacket over a wet spot so she does not get wet feet?

I prefer to avoid those areas, as you don't know what it's under that puddle, and seeing the girl disappear from your arm isn't pleasant :D , but besides this, I can think of myself as old fashioned.

ryuhebi13 03-07-2011 08:04 AM

Like has been said, it's just common courtesy. I'll hold open doors for anyone just behind me, I don't always get thanks but I do it nontheless. I'm courteous to old women and pregnant women especially it's just what you do. I can be old fashioned and gentlemanly, it's just the way I am. I've stopped guys (2 on 1) harrassing a girl even though she clearly said no. I got into trouble for it, but the girl was grateful and that's what matters. I'd step up again if needed to.

:vsign:

ryuurui 03-07-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gackt21 (Post 854730)
Okay when I mean old fashion, do you open the doors for women, go down slipper steps for she goes down to help her so she does not slip, or put your jacket over a wet spot so she does not get wet feet? How many of you do this? Do you treat a woman like a queen and lead her when she needs the help to make the connections. Women are known as the emotional creatures a lot of the time and needs the firm direction of a man. This is what I understand as old fashion and not well respected by today's men through the media.

Well, this is complicated. First of all modern women are (to a degree) responsible for this. When I sometimes observe what girls are doing and how they behave I am wondering if they are a completely new species. Same goes to the guys, but that's beside the point here. I guess it is a side effect of fast life, lack of face-to-face communication and degradation of basic social interactions. In Japan it is ridiculous. Last time I saw a family of 3, sitting in a food court. eating lunch on Sunday while ... playing nintendo. All f. three of them. If you don't call it retarded I do not really know what you should call it.

With the jacket over a wet spot. That is not being a gentleman, but being an idiot. You walk around it not through it. Honestly...

If you treat woman like a queen you give her too much room to think, and do more damage than good. You need to treat her with respect, but far from being a queen. In fact, if I was a woman and someone treated me like a queen, I'd get bored and most likely vomit.

Instead of throwing your jacket on the puddle, better talk to her and spend some time with her discovering her inner self. She will appreciate it much more than dramatic gestures observed in cheesy Hollywood movies from the 60s.

ryuhebi13 03-07-2011 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuurui (Post 854764)

With the jacket over a wet spot. That is not being a gentleman, but being an idiot. You walk around it not through it. Honestly...

LOL

Instead of throwing your jacket on the puddle, better talk to her and spend some time with her discovering her inner self. She will appreciate it much more than dramatic gestures observed in cheesy Hollywood movies from the 60s.

True enough

I've never quite understood throwing a jacket in a puddle. I think it started out as a drycleaners conspiracy to get more cash :D

catbat 03-07-2011 10:02 AM

Haha :D

Oh this thread is gonna be fun.

Something i've always wanted to know is why do guys leave the loo seat up?

(if you don't then good for you)

And if a girl was say, humble in the chest area, does it really make a difference to if you ask her out?

ryuhebi13 03-07-2011 10:06 AM

Cat. Married. The loo seat is always down :D But I guess, it saves time?

Humble in the chest area? Not really. Look at Gwen Stefani. I think I'd overlook her chest humbleness if she came swinging by mine for a coffee :D

WingsToDiscovery 03-07-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by catbat (Post 854773)

Something i've always wanted to know is why do guys leave the loo seat up?

For most of us decent guys, it's kind of an accident. We have to lift it to use it, and then just forget to put it down (something we're not required to do but is polite). I mean, if guys really wanted to start an argument, we could ask "Why don't girls lift the seat up when they're done?" As men we're just expected to do it instead to be decent.

catbat 03-07-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery (Post 854779)
I mean, if guys really wanted to start an argument, we could ask "Why don't girls lift the seat up when they're done?" As men we're just expected to do it instead to be decent.

Good call! I've never looked at it from that angle. Personally it doesnt bother me all that much, but it is one of those things guys do :)

catbat 03-07-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854774)
Look at Gwen Stefani. I think I'd overlook her chest humbleness if she came swinging by mine for a coffee :D

Oh i bet you would lol

Columbine 03-07-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuurui (Post 854764)
If you treat woman like a queen you give her too much room to think, and do more damage than good. You need to treat her with respect, but far from being a queen. In fact, if I was a woman and someone treated me like a queen, I'd get bored and most likely vomit.

Instead of throwing your jacket on the puddle, better talk to her and spend some time with her discovering her inner self.

To the contrary, I find being treated 'like a queen' ironically rather demeaning. It's suffocating. You don't have room to think; for the act to work you're not required or really wanted to think. I honestly appreciate when guys hold a door open for me, or stop me from breaking my neck on stairs like an ice rink but it's way too much to have everything done for you. I also a man and an equal, not a servant or a dog running around panting after my every whim. I mean, gross!

hahah, and now this thread is heading swiftly to being all about what women want in a guy, not what guys think.

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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854766)
I've never quite understood throwing a jacket in a puddle. I think it started out as a drycleaners conspiracy to get more cash :D

It's a story that (likely didn't really happen) about Sir Walter Raleigh doing that for Elizabeth 1st. He was supposed to be a dashing romantic, gentleman to the nth degree and her only love and all that, so it became reknowned as ~the~ gesture for chivalry.

ryuhebi13 03-07-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 854784)
I also a man and an equal, not a servant or a dog running around panting after my every whim. I mean, gross!

Yeah that would be very cloying wouldn't it?

hahah, and now this thread is heading swiftly to being all about what women want in a guy, not what guys think.

haha that's fine too

It's a story that (likely didn't really happen) about Sir Walter Raleigh doing that for Elizabeth 1st. He was supposed to be a dashing romantic, gentleman to the nth degree and her only love and all that, so it became reknowned as ~the~ gesture for chivalry.

Oh yas I know. I wonder, is chivalry still alive and kicking?

catbat 03-07-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854785)
Oh yas I know. I wonder, is chivalry still alive and kicking?

Somewhat. Although i know enough guys that have thought it a waste of time, and in their words, gay. I'm just glad there are decent sorts out there with the right amount of chivalry. If my bf dashed to open the door for me, sprinting past me to get there first, i may get grumpy with him lol

Columbine 03-07-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854785)
Oh yas I know. I wonder, is chivalry still alive and kicking?

I think so. I mean, not in the old sense of the actual code; dexterity in arms and Christian piety have fallen by the way-side but there are certainly decent guys out there who do the little things, young and old alike. I work part-time in a cafe, so i notice it a lot, especially getting down a narrow corridor with 2 doors and a heavy tea-tray. If you consider chivalry as the sum of it's parts; courage, generosity, valor, honour, justice, helping the weak and courtesy, then those things are still kicking about, and aren't bound by gender. Of course, finding them all in one person is a rarity.

ryuurui 03-07-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by catbat (Post 854773)
Haha :D

Oh this thread is gonna be fun.

Something i've always wanted to know is why do guys leave the loo seat up?

(if you don't then good for you)

And if a girl was say, humble in the chest area, does it really make a difference to if you ask her out?

What I want to ask is why my wife leaves it up sometimes, lol.
To be honest I do not pay attention to it but I think sometimes i do sometimes do not. But I must say it looks less vulgar and obvious when it is down, so perhaps that is why I lower it quite often.

I dont like big breasts. I like them shaped but not overflowing. Besides I am an ass / belly / thighs guy. I like the ass round shaped and pinchy, belly fit and not too plush and thighs where I can see some muscles vibrating under the skin.

I do not like tall girls either. They very inconvenient in bed and uncuddly. I am 192 / 113kg and my wife is 161 / 45kg. She is like a small couch-to-whatever-is-in-range rocket.

ryuhebi13 03-07-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 854788)
I think so. I mean, not in the old sense of the actual code; dexterity in arms has fallen by the way-side but there are certainly decent guys out there who do the little things, young and old alike. I work part-time in a cafe, so i notice it a lot, especially getting down a narrow corridor with 2 doors and a heavy tea-tray. If you consider chivalry as the sum of it's parts; courage, generosity, valor, honour, justice, helping the weak and courtesy, then those things are still kicking about, and aren't bound by gender. Of course, finding them all in one person is a rarity.

I feel for you. I used to wait tables and I always appreciated the kind gestures from customers and staff alike. Okay i'm going to sound like a big head here but I do try and live upto the points you mentioned. It's funny, it's not how I was raised either so I think with me it's nature over nature. I did see a lot of woman hating so I think I rebelled it against it. Who knows?

You are right that it shouldn't be bound by gender too. Anyone can try to be courageous, generous, just, courteous and help the weak and I do think there are a lot of men and women out there who are like that.

junicorn 03-07-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery (Post 854779)
For most of us decent guys, it's kind of an accident. We have to lift it to use it, and then just forget to put it down (something we're not required to do but is polite). I mean, if guys really wanted to start an argument, we could ask "Why don't girls lift the seat up when they're done?" As men we're just expected to do it instead to be decent.

The reason it is expected for a man to put the seat down and not for a woman to put it up is bc if a girl fumbles into the bathroom and sits down, she falls INTO the toilet...worse that can happen on the guys end is he pees on the seat. I actually know a guy who fell in when he ran to do number 2. :p

ryuurui 03-07-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 854784)
To the contrary, I find being treated 'like a queen' ironically rather demeaning. It's suffocating. You don't have room to think; for the act to work you're not required or really wanted to think. I honestly appreciate when guys hold a door open for me, or stop me from breaking my neck on stairs like an ice rink but it's way too much to have everything done for you. I also a man and an equal, not a servant or a dog running around panting after my every whim. I mean, gross!

And what did I tell you, ahaha , real women do not like it. Thank you, Colombine.

ryuhebi13 03-07-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by junicorn (Post 854796)
The reason it is expected for a man to put the seat down and not for a woman to put it up is bc if a girl fumbles into the bathroom and sits down, she falls INTO the toilet...worse that can happen on the guys end is he pees on the seat. I actually know a guy who fell in when he ran to do number 2. :p

I shouldn't laugh but...

haha :p

(Just glad thats never happened to me, I hope karmas not listening)

catbat 03-07-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuurui (Post 854794)
I dont like big breasts. I like them shaped but not overflowing. Besides I am an ass / belly / thighs guy. I like the ass round shaped and pinchy, belly fit and not too plush and thighs where I can see some muscles vibrating under the skin.

That is a relief to hear. My bf is always on about big boobs. Good to see theres 2 guys who aren't obsessed with them. I almost like the same in a guy.
ass / arms / belly.

Columbine 03-07-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854795)
I feel for you. I used to wait tables and I always appreciated the kind gestures from customers and staff alike. Okay i'm going to sound like a big head here but I do try and live upto the points you mentioned. It's funny, it's not how I was raised either so I think with me it's nature over nature. I did see a lot of woman hating so I think I rebelled it against it. Who knows?

You are right that it shouldn't be bound by gender too. Anyone can try to be courageous, generous, just, courteous and help the weak and I do think there are a lot of men and women out there who are like that.

I can tell you exactly who is more likely to return a tray or hold a door in order of likeliness:
A guy who thinks I or my coworker are cute
A young guy with his girlfriend
A woman by herself,
Two male friends
A man by himself
A mum without her kids
A mixed group of teens (bucking the 'teens are inconsiderate' view maybe?)
Elderly people
An older married couple no kids
Two young women
A teen boy
Teen girls
Little kids
Parents of the little kids
The disabled


and we have yet to have a group of teen boys in by themselves, but then I guess a vegetarian organic cafe is not really their scene, and maybe the boys who do come in aren't quite as rough and ready as those who patron other cafes. :/ Pagan men are lovely though, maybe it's because they worship a goddess and believe in karma, but they're always super considerate and friendly.

ryuhebi13 03-07-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 854802)
I can tell you exactly who is more likely to return a tray or hold a door in order of likeliness:
A guy who thinks I or my coworker are cute
A young guy with his girlfriend
A woman by herself,
Two male friends
A man by himself
A mum without her kids
A mixed group of teens (bucking the 'teens are inconsiderate' view maybe?)
Elderly people
An older married couple no kids
Two young women
A teen boy
Teen girls
Little kids
Parents of the little kids
The disabled


and we have yet to have a group of teen boys in by themselves, but then I guess a vegetarian organic cafe is not really their scene, and maybe the boys who do come in aren't quite as rough and ready as those who patron other cafes. :/ Pagan men are lovely though, maybe it's because they worship a goddess and believe in karma, but they're always super considerate and friendly.

I can agree with the list totally. Yeah, where you work may get more "sensitive" types anyway, not like the "macho" types we used to get. As for Pagan men, The Goddess worship must really make for a group of nurturers and protectors as if they are trying to emulate The God in his role as consort it would lead to them being more considerate.

I like your responses.

Columbine 03-07-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854804)
I can agree with the list totally. Yeah, where you work may get more "sensitive" types anyway, not like the "macho" types we used to get. As for Pagan men, The Goddess worship must really make for a group of nurturers and protectors as if they are trying to emulate The God in his role as consort it would lead to them being more considerate.

I like your responses.

Haha, oh we get little groups of petrol-head motorcyclists and builders in too. And business types. Couldn't call them not 'macho'. 8/

evanny 03-07-2011 11:36 AM

ass - FTW! i always go for that. :) boobs are not as important. and if i had to chose - better if a bit smaller than a bit too big.

protheus 03-07-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by catbat (Post 854773)
Something i've always wanted to know is why do guys leave the loo seat up?
(if you don't then good for you)

I don't so good for me :D .

Quote:

Originally Posted by catbat (Post 854773)
And if a girl was say, humble in the chest area, does it really make a difference to if you ask her out?

I always looked after small to even smaller chested girls. A image of a sixty year old woman with breasts hanging all the way to her ankles keeps haunting me (seaside + old woman with big boobs in youth + topless = image printed in the retina permanently), plus, I consider them for what are really there, feeding babies. Can't deny, I like touching them, but size doesn't matter, it's the same feeling (at least for me).

WingsToDiscovery 03-07-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by junicorn (Post 854796)
The reason it is expected for a man to put the seat down and not for a woman to put it up is bc if a girl fumbles into the bathroom and sits down, she falls INTO the toilet...worse that can happen on the guys end is he pees on the seat. I actually know a guy who fell in when he ran to do number 2. :p

You've got to look what you're doing no matter who you are. Just the same as a guy has to look to make sure the seat is up, a girl should look before she sits down. As I said, we do this out of courtesy, but that can only go so far before you're just an idiot if you don't look where you sit, and that can be applied to not just bathrooms.


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