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10-18-2008, 01:29 AM

manga publishers should put it on the internet for free and have income by advertisements. why would other people put it on the internet if its already up their from the publisher. if you like a book buy the book form but some people aren't real fans and just read it to waste time, thats why all they have to do is google free manga and then boom they have it. simple fix.
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10-18-2008, 01:38 AM

this is exactly why i buy my manga in book form, from the source, reading it online doesn't have the same effect for me
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manga publishers should put it on the internet for free and have income by advertisements. why would other people put it on the internet if its already up their from the publisher. if you like a book buy the book form but some people aren't real fans and just read it to waste time, thats why all they have to do is google free manga and then boom they have it. simple fix.
That's happening more often, but more as a way to get people interested in a title, and to eventually buy it. Simply put, publishers are never going to make the money from internet advertising that they will from actual books.

And why would a "fan" read a title he likes on a site full of ads when there are sites with no ads?

True fans will always do the right thing and buy the book to support the author and publisher ... and to make sure more books come out. I like seeing whole series sitting on my shelf, which I don't get from online.

I can't tell you how many times I have heard people say things like "So-and-so volume 5 didn't make any sense, I can't stand that series now." and I saw "That series isn't out in English yet. I didn't know you read Japanese." and they say "No, I read it on XOXO site."

Those are scanlations. Who knows who good or bad they are? If it doesn't make sense, there is probably a reason for that.
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10-18-2008, 03:41 AM

im saying they should release books as well as have it online. some people, like you, like to have book versions. people, more like young teens who can barely afford to pay for them on their own would be satisfied with the online version while others might like the book version. I don't know what you do in the industry, but advertising is a huge source of income. Alot of famous websites run purely on sales from ads alone (google, facebook, myspace, wikipedia, all free sites). Granted a lot more viewers on them, but with structured adversting where you make profiles and become a member of the site for free they can depict what ads would benefit each type of viewer as an individual.
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im saying they should release books as well as have it online. some people, like you, like to have book versions. people, more like young teens who can barely afford to pay for them on their own would be satisfied with the online version while others might like the book version. I don't know what you do in the industry, but advertising is a huge source of income. Alot of famous websites run purely on sales from ads alone (google, facebook, myspace, wikipedia, all free sites). Granted a lot more viewers on them, but with structured adversting where you make profiles and become a member of the site for free they can depict what ads would benefit each type of viewer as an individual.
How much do you think they are going to get in advertising on a site directed towards "young teens that can barely afford to pay for them on their own"?

And I am a translator.
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10-18-2008, 04:07 AM

I do both.
I read manga online to keep up with it.
And I either:
A - Buy the Weekly Jumps to help contribute.
B - Buy the Japanese tankoban.
I don't have to pay as much and the creator
still gets their profit.
Done deal.
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How much do you think they are going to get in advertising on a site directed towards "young teens that can barely afford to pay for them on their own"?

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The only variable that contributes to it is the young teen part. English is spoken all over the world and there is an enormous amount of young teens that read/interested in manga that would look at the site. The fact that they don't have money doesn't matter with a free website. thats the point.

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The only variable that contributes to it is the young teen part. English is spoken all over the world and there is an enormous amount of young teens that read/interested in manga that would look at the site. The fact that they don't have money doesn't matter with a free website. thats the point.
If you are going to release it free online and in print for sale, the only result will be losing print sales. Advertisers in America don't care if people in people in other countries are reading if they can't access whatever it is they are advertising.

ReqPaq, your heard is in the right place, and trust me, all the publishers have examined these issues and are trying what works for them.
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10-18-2008, 04:37 AM

of course print sales will go down because less prints will be bought! thats when the advertising revenue would balance it out and possibly see a growth in sales. A lot of companies are doing this and they should act on it instead of sticking with the old fashion way. times have changed as with technology.

im not sure about the exact term for it, (i'll call it selective advertising) but selective advertising knows the viewer is in another country if the site requires a free registered profile (pandora radio is a good example of this) and automatically selects appropriate adds for each viewer.

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10-18-2008, 04:48 AM

I only know about the companies I have worked with, but when you have a market of paying customers and a market of non-paying customers, the priority has to go to the paying customers. Manga is a niche market. The expensive part is getting it into English. Printing isn't that expensive. And if people will pay 8 to 25 dollars for that printed work, then you have some success, but even successful manga don't sell millions...more in the 10s of thousands. Naruto and Bleach are the Titanic and Star Wars of manga. Most other titles find limited success or don't, and are dropped.

emanga is trying a format like you describe, but I have to question the success they are going to find. It is hard to navigate manga online and get the ease of reading with the same detail.

If manga publisher executives were all riding around in limos lighting their cigars with 100 dollar bills, then I would say "Yeah, give back to the community" but they aren't, trust me. What they do sometimes do, though, is give to libraries...

You said "A lot of companies are doing this and they should act on it instead of sticking with the old fashion way. times have changed as with technology."

Who?
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