Anime discrimination - gets you feeling annoyed

[annelie82]

Originally Posted by CoolNard

Yes... but the question here is *how*, exactly? O.o

You mean "how" as in "how do we get adults to watch anime?" Well, you got me, I have no idea...Though, I suppose advertising is one factor that contributes to anime and cartoons being construed as "children's entertainment". If anime was advertised by regular magazines and newspapers (and not just by children's mags and in comic books), adults would obviously take more notice of it. TV advertisments would obviously have to be broadcast during "prime time" (in the UK, for instance, this would be between 7pm and 11pm approximately) when more adult viewers are likely to be tuned in. The content (in terms of humour, storyline highlights, themes and underlying messages etc.) of the adverts would also have to be "intellectualized" to suit adult tastes. Changes such as these could make anime more appealing to adults, I suppose.

Well, since you put it that way, I wouldn't say they're covering up their actions with arguments, more like, excuses. Hence, their justification isn't valid.

I agree. The argument/excuse that non-animated films and tv shows are more concerned with reality (i.e. that they are less "fictional") than anime doesn't hold true. That said, it is clear that anime provides a different lens through which reality can be observed. For instance, I've always found animated violence less icky and off-putting than non-animated violence, probably because the former involves two-dimensional, computerised figures beating each other to a pulp, whereas the latter includes actual people beating each other to a pulp (albeit with the aid of hollywood make-up and special effects). It's just easier to take things to the extreme in anime without overdoing it. I guess this is what "opponents" of anime/science fiction mean when accuse anime/sci-fi fans of "shying away" from reality... Then again, tv watching in general is about escaping reality in some way, right?

We are knowledgeable of this, but are our sci-fi-loving counterparts?

I think they are aware of it, just like us. What they have yet to realise is that their interest in human psychology and emotional development is something they actually have in common with - not something that sets them apart from - soap opera fans.

At least, that's depends on how lucky we are and what we hope for.

If you have confidence in yourself and what you do others will too eventually, I strongly maintain that. The problem is that many anime fans nowadays expect to be made fun of all the time; consequently they interpret most - if not all - comments sent their way as an attempt to scorn or belittle their interest in anime. If anime fans chose to regard potentially demeaning comments as an opportunity to inform and attract others to the world of anime, they would probably be rewarded with curiosity and respect, rather than continued mockery.

No problem, I share the same sentiments therefore, it makes a whole lotta sense to me.

Great minds think alike, they say.

Gee, loong post. Sorry if reading it has made your eyes bleed. Heh...

~annelie

[fuu]

Originally Posted by curious_jane

weeeeellllll......if he doesn't like what I'm watching, he just yells and leaves the room , but if I tried the same thing he yells at me for it, kinda one sided . But I react, with ignoring him, for a day or two, and watch utube anime on the comp. He really hates that.
So, yes - I force him to watch anime! To bad it wouldn't work on other people.....

I hear ya!!!!!!!
I try to force mine and sometimes it works. He has watched FF7 Advent children. ANd I can get him to watch anything Gundam but mostly Seed and Wing. To be honest he thinks if anime isn't for kids then it's porn.......
Can't convince him otherwise.

[CoolNard]

Originally Posted by annelie82

You mean "how" as in "how do we get adults to watch anime?" Well, you got me, I have no idea...Though, I suppose advertising is one factor that contributes to anime and cartoons being construed as "children's entertainment". If anime was advertised by regular magazines and newspapers (and not just by children's mags and in comic books), adults would obviously take more notice of it. TV advertisments would obviously have to be broadcast during "prime time" (in the UK, for instance, this would be between 7pm and 11pm approximately) when more adult viewers are likely to be tuned in. The content (in terms of humour, storyline highlights, themes and underlying messages etc.) of the adverts would also have to be "intellectualized" to suit adult tastes. Changes such as these could make anime more appealing to adults, I suppose.

Amazingly detailed.. O.o lol..., which brings up another question.. how can we get 'them' to advertize anime in a maturer sense? XD~! sorry, asking too many questions has never been my strong point.. i think...

Originally Posted by annelie82

I agree. The argument/excuse that non-animated films and tv shows are more concerned with reality (i.e. that they are less "fictional") than anime doesn't hold true. That said, it is clear that anime provides a different lens through which reality can be observed. For instance, I've always found animated violence less icky and off-putting than non-animated violence, probably because the former involves two-dimensional, computerised figures beating each other to a pulp, whereas the latter includes actual people beating each other to a pulp (albeit with the aid of hollywood make-up and special effects). It's just easier to take things to the extreme in anime without overdoing it. I guess this is what "opponents" of anime/science fiction mean when accuse anime/sci-fi fans of "shying away" from reality... Then again, tv watching in general is about escaping reality in some way, right?

Ahhh... I can't disagree as well. But I feel that watching tv can be utilized in more ways than just one - escaping from reality, though that doesn't really have anything to do with the topic on hand.. O.o

Originally Posted by annelie82

If you have confidence in yourself and what you do others will too eventually, I strongly maintain that. The problem is that many anime fans nowadays expect to be made fun of all the time; consequently they interpret most - if not all - comments sent their way as an attempt to scorn or belittle their interest in anime. If anime fans chose to regard potentially demeaning comments as an opportunity to inform and attract others to the world of anime, they would probably be rewarded with curiosity and respect, rather than continued mockery.

Uhh... You really said everything i wanted to say lol.., nothing much I can type now.. XD~!
Anyway, the word here is "probably", what happens if they carry on with mocking you?

Originally Posted by annelie82

Gee, loong post. Sorry if reading it has made your eyes bleed. Heh...

lol, my eyes came rather close to.. but i guess that's what i like about you ^^

P.S. fuu: lol, i think you and curious_jane have alot in common =P

[annelie82]

[quote=CoolNard;57320]Amazingly detailed.. O.o lol..., which brings up another question.. how can we get 'them' to advertize anime in a maturer sense? XD~! sorry, asking too many questions has never been my strong point.. i think...

Lol! We could probably go on forever like this, you asking questions and me rambling out long, making-your-eyes-bleed answers.

One of the few lessons life has managed to bestow on me so far is that, at the end of the day, the only way to change those around you is to change yourself. If you decide to have confidence in yourself people will notice it and respect you for it. And once they respect you, they will also respect what you do.

I guess the bottom line of what I'm trying to say is that, as anime fans, we just have to keep doing what we love and accept that not everyone may share our interests. Eventually the rest of the world will hook on. Eventually, mind you - Rome wasn't built in a day, after all. ^^

As for this whole Anime World Domination thing - let's hope that at least a few people are spared from it, lest modern society ceases to function entirely. Imagine if people refused to show up for work and instead were sat at home like zombies watching Evangelion and Naruto...

~annelie

[angie023]

have u guys seen this: full metal alchemist? well, i borrowed a dvd of it from my best friend, zoe. and it's called: full metal alchemist the movie conqueror of shamballa. it's really good. but, i think i annoyed my twin brother,todd, and my identical twin cousins, tom and robbie. but robbie and tom's best friend, charlie really wanted to see it. i was just wondering if u guys have seen it. i get really curious easily.

[CoolNard]

annelie82: Couldn't have said it better myself

angie023: lol, i havent, but i think im gonna ^^

[DreamKeeperLuna]

Have any of you ever had your parents or siblings ever say that anime is only porn? Well I have, my litle sister called it porn because of a little nudity(I was watching Full Metal Panic) in the opening of the show. My parents call it porn because of triple x rated fanfics. It annoys how they pick on the stuff I like and I don't even say anything about the things they like the most. I'd say I'm the only one that understands whats going on.

Another question, Have your parents or siblings ever called anime,cartoons and manga, comicbooks? It annoys me that my family can't tell the difference between them.

I know that these questions are like basic but I just wanted to know who else has these problems at home.

[CoolNard]

I do, many people who've posted in this thread also has >_<"
Actually, when i was still in secondary school, most of my ignorant classmates thought the same and sad to say, they still do.. that goes the same for my family.. *sigh* somehtings never change..

"It's just a cartoon!"
"It has a bad influence on you!"
things like that.. -.-"

[kitski]

merli aka kitski says: so what's up kristi..(my friend)
kristi:aah nothin' much..eek what's that on your display?..wait is that a cartoon..?lol are you still watching them?..
merli says: what? nonononono it's not a cartoon pic..it's character from the anime called elfen lied..
kristi: ohh so what?..it's still a cartoon..come on grow up?

arghhhh...see? that's a discrimination..again

[CoolNard]

Wow, thats seriously stuck-up... =/ but nothing new... >_<" Happens everyday.. *sigh*