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08-14-2009, 08:38 PM

Sorry to awaken this thread from the dead, but I'm curious...

Has anyone seen PONYO? I haven't seen it yet, and I want to know how it is when compared to Disney's The Little Mermaid.


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08-14-2009, 10:31 PM

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Sorry to awaken this thread from the dead, but I'm curious...

Has anyone seen PONYO? I haven't seen it yet, and I want to know how it is when compared to Disney's The Little Mermaid.
the two can't be compared, they have entirely different stories. ponyo is more of a cute cartoon for little japanese children. while watching it i found the story lacking in substance. the little boy calls his mom by her first name, i found that odd. also, when the boy says goodbye to teacher or his mom he says sayonara, i thought that was odd because my japanese teacher taught me sayonara was only used when there was a long depart (not seeing eachother for +month) good movie if you like films such as totoro. catchy kiddy song at the end


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Sorry to awaken this thread from the dead, but I'm curious...

Has anyone seen PONYO? I haven't seen it yet, and I want to know how it is when compared to Disney's The Little Mermaid.
I hope to see it soon. Although Disney has already butchered the cute theme with a techno remix.
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08-15-2009, 03:19 AM

I am and always will be a huge fan of Pixar. I'm an animation student so my teacher's are always referring to Pixar as like... the best of the best. Which is pretty true. Pixar movies are all like that because they spend many years on each film ONLY for pre-production (planning each and every shot until they know exactly what the final film will look like. Of course a few of my teachers refer to Miyazaki as a god in the animation industry.

However, Pixar is still all family movies, same with disney. Which is why I prefer Japanese anime films. Films like Grave of the Fireflies, Ghost in the Shell, and Millennium Actress really push the boundaries of how mature an animated film can be. Of course there are some exceptions to this. But American animation does tend to be geared towards children.

EDIT: I saw Ponyo in Japanese, It's nothing like the little mermaid really... There are some similarities. I was actually really disappointed though. It was a beautiful film, the animation was top notch, it was creative, and had very unique ideas. But the story just never really came together.

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I see mention about how Japanese animation (although I only really see this in Ghibli) has a sort of quirkyness that brings characters to life. Complex emotions as opposed to straightforward common emotions.

However, this reminds me of some older American cartoons that very much displayed such complexities, both in animation and character. There were adult themes such as death, racism, and depression. They were unfortunately overshadowed by Disney.

Anyone remember "All Dogs go to Heaven" or "An American Tail" ? They were vibrant and lively and, unfortunately, a rare piece of animation. These are works by Don Bluth. He also worked on Disney's "Lady and the Tramp" and "The Sword in the Stone." These animations had a very different feel that I am still fond of to this day... and I wasn't even old enough to appreciate them when they came out!

Also worth mentioning are the works of Tim Burton! If computer animation is relevant, I am sure his animation can be too... Nightmare Before Christmas proved to be a classic. Not exactly deep, but it certainly has mentionable qualities.

Oh, and the newest CGI animated movie I am looking forward to by Burton is a movie by the name of "9". Coming out 9/9/09. Looks very interesting.

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I see mention about how Japanese animation (although I only really see this in Ghibli) has a sort of quirkyness that brings characters to life. Complex emotions as opposed to straightforward common emotions.

However, this reminds me of some older American cartoons that very much displayed such complexities, both in animation and character. There were adult themes such as death, racism, and depression. They were unfortunately overshadowed by Disney.

Anyone remember "All Dogs go to Heaven" or "An American Tail" ? They were vibrant and lively and, unfortunately, a rare piece of animation. These are works by Don Bluth. He also worked on Disney's "Lady and the Tramp" and "The Sword in the Stone." These animations had a very different feel that I am still fond of to this day... and I wasn't even old enough to appreciate them when they came out!

Also worth mentioning are the works of Tim Burton! If computer animation is relevant, I am sure his animation can be too... Nightmare Before Christmas proved to be a classic. Not exactly deep, but it certainly has mentionable qualities.

Oh, and the newest CGI animated movie I am looking forward to by Burton is a movie by the name of "9". Coming out 9/9/09. Looks very interesting.
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08-20-2009, 12:43 AM

I do like some Japanese animation, but when it comes down to it Pixar wins hands down. They all have such deep stories, and in my opinion are geared towards adults, but appeal to children at the same time. Movies like Wall-E are great social commentaries about modern times.

And I also beg to differ that any video game has better cgi than pixar movies. Some may look more life like due to the approach Pixar takes. They make a more cartoony look. But it is far more detailed and crisp than any video game.... and I love video games.


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08-20-2009, 02:55 AM

I recently saw ponyo(Gake no ue no ponyo). It was pretty good but seemed a rip of the little mermaid. But I don't know which came first. I did enjoy the animation though.
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08-20-2009, 02:56 AM

It all depends on personal opinion. I personally, despise most American animation. Robot Chicken and Family Guy being exceptions to that statement. Japanese Animation reigns superior. More soul, more depth, more angles, more versatility. Simple enough for my standing. I do not ponder.



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08-20-2009, 03:01 AM

Can you really count robot chicken as animation? Family guy is wowlolol simpsons ftw.
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