HELP!!!Comics disappear from Japan!

[masaegu]

Originally Posted by tokusatsufan

I don't understand what's happening.

Neither does the OP. S/He is making a fuss out of nothing.

[Demitrichan]

But the Government can only censor what's published yes?
So what if the artist that had something to sell just copied it on their own dime and sold it to whomever came to their door to ask?
Or maybe I'm not getting what this law is all about?

[Koir]

Originally Posted by masaegu

Neither does the OP. S/He is making a fuss out of nothing.

I suppose that holds true for the businesses pulling out of the Tokyo Anime Fair as well?

As for the thread issue, from what I've read on ANN it has more to do with government dysfunction than the less obvious rampant censorship the industry is fearing. Also, the person who proposed the amendment and kept trying to pass it wrote a novel(?) years ago that would be considered obscene understand the amendment has asserted that anyone who likes what they want to censor has "defective DNA".

It's not far of a leap for some people to connect it to the videogame violence issue currently being decided in the California Supreme Court.

That's my opinion on the issue at least.

[WingsToDiscovery]

Originally Posted by Koir

I suppose that holds true for the businesses pulling out of the Tokyo Anime Fair as well?

As for the thread issue, from what I've read on ANN it has more to do with government dysfunction than the less obvious rampant censorship the industry is fearing. Also, the person who proposed the amendment and kept trying to pass it wrote a novel(?) years ago that would be considered obscene understand the amendment has asserted that anyone who likes what they want to censor has "defective DNA".

It's not far of a leap for some people to connect it to the videogame violence issue currently being decided in the California Supreme Court.

That's my opinion on the issue at least.

So you're advocating child pornographic art, because people "like what they like?"
I talked to Patrick Galbraith (frequent writer for publications like Otaku USA and part of NHK's "Cool Japan" promotion) yesterday, and even he was iffy about the resistance to the ordinance.

[Koir]

Here's a newsflash: Not agreeing to you doesn't mean I'm all for whatever worst case scenario you can pull out of the ether. I knew having a differing opinion is an unforgiveable mistake in this forum, yet I still presented it. I'm not surprised this kind of response happened at all.

I've learned for the next time to not say anything. Thank you for your time.

[siokan]

the point at issue

The thing managed by the municipal law before the amendment is possible.
It is a stupid feminist group to have made the original bill of the municipal law.
The majority of the member of the institution that manages it are affiliates of the crazy feminist group.
Because it is a mark with an ambiguous description of the municipal law sentence, anything can be managed.

The content and the back dealings of the text are obviously malfunctions though agreed with the regulation by the greater part of people.

[WingsToDiscovery]

Originally Posted by Koir

Here's a newsflash: Not agreeing to you doesn't mean I'm all for whatever worst case scenario you can pull out of the ether. I knew having a differing opinion is an unforgiveable mistake in this forum, yet I still presented it. I'm not surprised this kind of response happened at all.

I've learned for the next time to not say anything. Thank you for your time.

Here's a newsflash. You're right that subjectively not agreeing means you're for something else by default. But if you're going to make a claim, then support it with something like, "It's not far of a leap for some people to connect it to the videogame violence issue currently being decided in the California Supreme Court," then what you've done is equate one to the other by giving an example of a topic with the same merit that you also don't believe in (ie, video game violence= bad kids). And if you agree to the latter argument, which has equal weight to the former argument, then by default you've agreed to the former.

Even if that wasn't your intention, it's why the response you gave got that reaction; because you set up that type of argument, not because we don't understand your ways, or whatever you think. I laugh at the haughtiness of you're post as if you know what you're talking about when you can't even form an argument. GTFO kid.

[Koir]

Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery

I laugh at the haughtiness of you're post as if you know what you're talking about when you can't even form an argument. GTFO kid.

It's "your", "kid".

You certainly live up to your sig. As a bonus, I put it to you that if the amendment was such a universally welcomed thing, why would a group of anime & manga publishers who incidentally *don't* make "child pornography" publicly state they wouldn't attend the TAF? Perception of reduced sales in a certain area, perhaps?

[WingsToDiscovery]

Originally Posted by Koir

It's "your", "kid".

You certainly live up to your sig. As a bonus, I put it to you that if the amendment was such a universally welcomed thing, why would a group of anime & manga publishers who incidentally *don't* make "child pornography" publicly state they wouldn't attend the TAF? Perception of reduced sales in a certain area, perhaps?

You would pick out a single grammar mistake and harp on that. But yeah, I guess I do live up to my signature, hence why it's there. First, no one ever said it had to be universally liked. You're an example of someone who opposes it, although you obviously don't hold any weight compared to publishers, but it can still be taken that the amendment won't be liked by everyone.

I can actually think of several reasons why, but before I walk into a loaded question, I ask you to provide the reasoning for why these publishers left yourself, because "a group of publishers" doesn't have any merit. Who has stated that they're leaving, and what is the reasoning behind leaving? Is it because they don't support the amendment itself, or because they're afraid of brand association? That's the key.

[Koir]

Against my better judgment and because I'm a nice guy, I dug up the reference you seem determined to extract from me.

Editorial: How Bill 156 Got Passed - Anime News Network

Pretty much encapsulates the whole history of Bill 156. If that's not enough, I suggest you direct your questions to the author. I'm sure the derisive devil's advocacy of some forum member will carry much weight with a member of the anime/manga industry itself.

Dan KANEMITSU - Anime News Network

I consider the matter closed, FYI.