One Manga is closing down

[siokan]

The manager of OM and MH made a company with the money that they earned by stolen goods.

[nobora]

Are they targetting the most popular websites first such as foxmanga( or mangafox i dont remember) or are they doing it randomly?

And I dont understand why mangaka didnt put a stop to this from the very beggining.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by nobora

Are they targetting the most popular websites first such as foxmanga( or mangafox i dont remember) or are they doing it randomly?

And I dont understand why mangaka didnt put a stop to this from the very beggining.

Legal actions are never random. Mangafox no longer hosts licensed manga.

Mangaka have no power.

That's like saying "Why didn't musicians put a stop to illegal music downloads?"

How? You are assuming they have the money to engage in international lawsuits.

Thankfully, the publishers have joined forces to make a unified attack.

[siokan]

The company in China is managing MangaFox.
Country that bribe and connection make very.
It is likely to get away ..

[YukisUke]

Originally Posted by MMM

That's what Manga Helpers does now. They used to post the scans, but they saw the inevitable end of the line, and now they post only the translations. So you can buy the original Japanese somewhere, and then read online as you look at the book.

As to whether or not that is a copyright violation...I don't know. Good question.



I get exactly what you are saying. You got something for free. You got it for free for a long time. Now the gravy train has made its last stop. You are sad.

See. You're not getting what I'm saying at all. You're taking what I said out of proportion. How about you take the gravy train and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

[dogsbody70]

yukisuki when you go shopping do you expect to pay for the goods that you buy or do you think they should be free.

what would happen to a shop that just gave everything a way for free-- although the shop owners have to pay for all the stock they have in their shop.

Would you be happy to work hard set up a business such as MANGA with all the costs that entails then give it all away?


Unfortunately the Internet has ruined the music industry because of all the illegal free downloading.

I think you need to stop and think. How would you feel if it was YOU who put all the time and effort and money into a business then watch it be stolen.
Would that make you happy?

I am afraid that many young people take the freebies for granted but if no money goes back into the kitty-- those businesses disappear. How on earth are they expected to survive.

common sense is needed here.

If you can't afford to buy something then you have to save up until you Can.

[RobinMask]

Originally Posted by YukisUke

See. You're not getting what I'm saying at all. You're taking what I said out of proportion. How about you take the gravy train and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

Sorry to get involved, but I just wondered what it was you were trying to say? I'm very curious and if people have taken it out of proportion then that is unfair, however it's very hard to understand when you haven't reworded or explained your stance.

If we've all mistaken you then it might be helpful if you actually explain what you mean so we can understand, that way we can engage in an intellegent discussion I think insulting MMM doesn't help you at all, it just makes you sound rather immature, unable to put your point across without resorting to insults. So if you could explain without getting personal it'd be appreciated.

I don't care that OM was illegal or not. Think about the people who have to pay bills and whatnot. They don't have money to buy volumes of mangs books. Online manga was their way of keeping up with everyone else. And if you don't see it that way, oh well.

I think that above quote is what most people are objecting to. This made it sound - as others have said - that you expect manga to be free, that you have a right for it to be free. If you didn't mean it that way then please correct this. If you don't have money to buy manga then that is a shame, but if everyone had the mentality that they should have it free then the manga-kas would get no profit and there wouldn't be any manga. The authors need money from sales to create manga, and by people like us taking that away it makes it hard to create the products we so love. It's very naive to think otherwise.

Admitedly I used to visit onemanga myself, but I think after this I'll certainly be buying what I read and enjoy from now on, rather than just reading online, because it's only fair in the long run.

[MMM]

RobinMask, I appreciate what you are trying to do, but you are trying to speak logically to someone with essentially an addict personality.

Originally Posted by YukisUke

See. You're not getting what I'm saying at all. You're taking what I said out of proportion. How about you take the gravy train and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

I took nothing of what you said "out of proportion". Your reaction tells me I was probably right on the money.

[nobora]

Originally Posted by MMM

Legal actions are never random. Mangafox no longer hosts licensed manga.

Mangaka have no power.

That's like saying "Why didn't musicians put a stop to illegal music downloads?"

How? You are assuming they have the money to engage in international lawsuits.

Thankfully, the publishers have joined forces to make a unified attack.

That makes alot of more sense.

[StonerPenguin]

Honestly, I bummed it's gone -- but I think this is a great opportunity for manga publishers. The biggest reason why I don't buy manga (and believe me, I've bought a bunch as it is...) is because it's somewhat embarrassing to have all those kicking around and they take up a bunch of space. Moreover, the licensed U.S. translators (especially Viz) dick up the translations, edit/omit things, and has slow releases. Even people who don't mind paying (and don't know Japanese) would have to wait months for chapters to come out.

However, I think the publishers selling HQ downloads themselves is great! Especially RAWs (Raws are a pain to find and are often illegible anyway!) About 25% of the price of the original book seems fair to me. Come on publishers, capitalize!