Anime and Manga for the over 30s

[ILOVEJAPAN]

Originally Posted by MMM

I agree...though Berserk is still going, right?

Eden, Trigun, and Battle Royale as well...

I LOVE Eden! It an amazing manga. They havent made an anime addaption have they? And Battle Royale would be great as an anime, I dont think there is one? Is there? I read the manga, book, and watched the films. I would love to see an anime.

They never make anime out of the best manga. They only make anime out of mane stream manga. Its very unfair. I do like the fact that alot of those non main stream manga get film adaptions, but still those films are somtimes low budget and dissapointing.

[MMM]

I think the movie version of Battle Royale is as good as we can get.

[Haggis]

Midori... can't really say whether I'd recommend this or not. 10 minutes in and you think "Why am I watching this? It's the most depressing, disturbing, movie ever." However if you can make it to the end you find you actually quite enjoyed it, the rest of the film is very different from the beginning, and the artwork and style of animation is so different and unique it's a joy to watch. It's just a shame the beginning is so nasty though, you feel it doesn't have to be, it's not that essential to the plot.

[ILOVEJAPAN]

Originally Posted by Haggis

Midori... can't really say whether I'd recommend this or not. 10 minutes in and you think "Why am I watching this? It's the most depressing, disturbing, movie ever." However if you can make it to the end you find you actually quite enjoyed it, the rest of the film is very different from the beginning, and the artwork and style of animation is so different and unique it's a joy to watch. It's just a shame the beginning is so nasty though, you feel it doesn't have to be, it's not that essential to the plot.

You have seen Midori? I was so sure I was the only one here who had seen it? Was it because It was on a recomendation list I had made for you? Or had you already seen it? Midori is the only REALLY non-main-stream manga I have seen with an anime addaption. I loved the animation, there wasnt alot of movment and it almost looked more like manga then anime. Which I think was done on purpose. As for being perverse...its based on somthing by Maruo Suehiro, what did you expect? I loved all the sexualy weird and descusting moments. Especialy the necropelia...I like to see how descusted and sickend I can be by such freakish things. The thing I liked most though is how affective the animation was, I watched it in Japanese (I couldnt find it in any other language) but I could tell exactly what was going on the whole time. I thought it was amazing how much the relied on the animation to tell the story...so even if you dont know Japanese the pictures tell the story for you.

[ILOVEJAPAN]

Originally Posted by MMM

I think the movie version of Battle Royale is as good as we can get.

Yes, well I was very satisfied with the Battle Royale movies. I was also very satisfied with movie addaptions of UZUMAKI, ICHI THE KILLER, TOMIE, MPD PHSYCHO(which I thought was much better then the manga at least so far), DEATH NOTE, and SHINOBI HEART UNDER BLADE (BASALISK). But for every good addaption there are alot more that arent good at all. The film addaption of MAISON IKKOKU was terrible, for example. OLD BOY proved that South Korea can do a great addaption, I heard that South Korea was going to make a live action addaption of BLOOD:THE LAST VAMPIRE, but I havent heard anything on that for months so maybe they just trashed that project? As for Hollywood, we will see if america can do a decent live action addaption when AFRO SAMURAI the live action hollywood version comes out. Also we might see a live action hollywood remake of GHOST IN THE SHELL but the project isnt for sure yet.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by ILOVEJAPAN

Yes, well I was very satisfied with the Battle Royale movies. I was also very satisfied with movie addaptions of UZUMAKI, ICHI THE KILLER, TOMIE, MPD PHSYCHO(which I thought was much better then the manga at least so far), DEATH NOTE, and SHINOBI HEART UNDER BLADE (BASALISK). But for every good addaption there are alot more that arent good at all. The film addaption of MAISON IKKOKU was terrible, for example. OLD BOY proved that South Korea can do a great addaption, I heard that South Korea was going to make a live action addaption of BLOOD:THE LAST VAMPIRE, but I havent heard anything on that for months so maybe they just trashed that project? As for Hollywood, we will see if america can do a decent live action addaption when AFRO SAMURAI the live action hollywood version comes out. Also we might see a live action hollywood remake of GHOST IN THE SHELL but the project isnt for sure yet.

I liked the Battle Royale movies, as well. (One more than Two, but Two was good). I had seen UZUMAKI, ICHI THE KILLER, TOMIE, and MPD PSYCHO all as movies before seeing manga. I much prefer the TOMIE manga to the movis (I saw the first two) and the same is true for me of MPD PSYCHO. I thought the video by Miike was visually exciting, but the story was impossible to understand. Reading the manga makes it make more sense. GHOST IN THE SHELL:STAND ALONE COMPLEX DVD comes out next week (anime).

I agree with OLD BOY. It is a great movie, but now I wish I hadn't seen in because I know what happens at the end of the manga.

[Skyraida]

how could you like battle royale 2? it was terrible, my friends and i were watching both BR 1 and 2, and BR 2 did not compare to BR1, it had no real point, they didn't accomplish ANYTHING, we were all pretty disappointed, plus the movie was way to long...2 hours and 30 minutes :O...it was just boring...the first quarter where they're on the boat was okay, but it went downhill from there.
on a side note, Oldboy was a disgustingly great movie.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Skyraida

how could you like battle royale 2? it was terrible, my friends and i were watching both BR 1 and 2, and BR 2 did not compare to BR1, it had no real point, they didn't accomplish ANYTHING, we were all pretty disappointed, plus the movie was way to long...2 hours and 30 minutes :O...it was just boring...the first quarter where they're on the boat was okay, but it went downhill from there.
on a side note, Oldboy was a disgustingly great movie.

Oh Skyraida, I don't like it enough to even begin to try and defend it. It was the last movie Kinji Fukasaku worked on before he died (his son finished directing) and I am a big fan of Riki Takeuchi. The problem is once you have Battle Royale, there isn't much to work off of. It was a step backwards to have the kids NOT killing their classmates. That's the whole point. But I did think the idea of "teams" was kinda cool. and the scene with Riki Takeuchi explaining the game was pretty intense. Where Part 1 is action/psychological horror, Part 2 is just action, pretty much.

[ILOVEJAPAN]

Originally Posted by MMM

I liked the Battle Royale movies, as well. (One more than Two, but Two was good). I had seen UZUMAKI, ICHI THE KILLER, TOMIE, and MPD PSYCHO all as movies before seeing manga. I much prefer the TOMIE manga to the movis (I saw the first two) and the same is true for me of MPD PSYCHO. I thought the video by Miike was visually exciting, but the story was impossible to understand. Reading the manga makes it make more sense. GHOST IN THE SHELL:STAND ALONE COMPLEX DVD comes out next week (anime).

I agree with OLD BOY. It is a great movie, but now I wish I hadn't seen in because I know what happens at the end of the manga.

Ok...where do I begin...first of all, I almost always like the manga more then the movie (except in MPD PHSYCO's case). UZUMAKI the manga was much better, and I read it as a manga first, but when I finally got ahold of the movie, I was thinking "How much of this can they addapt into film?" I was pleasantly suprised with how much they were able to do considering how much special affects and computers you would need to remake ANY part of the manga. I saw ICHI THE KILLER before I even knew there was a manga. I was REALLY impressed with how violant and desturbing it was. So when I heard there was a manga I thought..."How much more violant then the film can this be?" I was pleasantly suprised by the fact that the manga was 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% more desturbing. I read TOMIE before I saw any of the films. I think the manga is alot better then all of the films put together, but still I loved the films. If you have only watched the first two, then watch the rest. I HATTED the first two but it went WAY uphill from there. The rest of the films in the sereis were MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better. And with MPD PHSYCO I agree that its ALOT easier to understand the manga. But the movies were so trippy and strange...that feeling just wasnt in the manga...it was dissapointing Still...at least the manga isnt blurred. I think the more I read the manga the more I will understand the films. When I saw ICHI THE KILLER there were alot of things I didnt understand...but from reading the manga, I understood the plot alot more (the manga was much clearer and they took more time to explain the plot) and it made the film alot better for me. I feel like it will be the same with MPD PHSYCHO.

[ILOVEJAPAN]

Originally Posted by Haggis

Midori...It's just a shame the beginning is so nasty though, you feel it doesn't have to be, it's not that essential to the plot.

I was just thinking about that and I think it was essintial to the plot. All the gross stuff was there to show how terrible her life is.