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07-24-2009, 06:13 AM

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The Prime Minister Aso dissolved the Lower House on July 21th, and a general election will be held on August 30th in Japan.
"the" before "prime minister" should be omitted unless you wanted to put "Aso" between two commas. Otherwise, it sounds fine to me. :3

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As you may know, Japanese prime ministers change one after another. Mr. Aso took the seat of prime minister after two former prime ministers’ resigns.
Hmmm......

I don't get the meaning of the first sentence? I'm guessing you just mean that they have different opinions? In the second sentence, you can omit "Mr." because it is not needed if you are using his last name. The second sentence doesn't fully make sense to me. I'm guessing you are trying to say "Aso became prime minister after the former minister's resignation." I'm guessing it would just be obvious and unneeded unformation.

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He was elected by LDP (Liberal Democratic Party) members. Almost all the people can’t vote when a prime minister is elected, but only ruling party legislators can.
Your grammar is perfectly fine, but you need better word choice in the second sentence. I would estimate you were trying to say "When electing a prime minister, only the party regislators can vote."

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They elect their boss, and then drag him down. I guess you would think Japanese people are packs of mutts.
lol

The first sentence just needs to be changed to past-tense while adding "quickly" before "drag(ged)." I don't know what your intention was in the second sentence, but I'm guessing it is a joke describing Japanese elections.

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Japanese people don’t attempt a coup d’état nor an assassination. Japanese people are meek, docile and quiet. I sometimes watch people in other countries rise against wanton treatment on TV.
The "don't" in the first sentence isn't a acceptable verb choice for what you are trying to get across. It would be better to use any of these "wouldn't/would not" instead. In the second sentence, just change "Japanese people" to a suitible pronoun. (I'm guessing "we" for including yourself or "they" if you want to exclude yourself from the comment.) Wanton treatment?

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If that energetic people immigrated to Japan, Japan would be occupied by them. I think Japanese politicians may know that, so they ban immigration from other countries.
"that" should not be used in the sentence because it is the wrong form to use. You could either omit "that" or use "those" instead. Japan after the comma should be "it" to avoid repetition. "may" is not needed in the third sentence so you could omit it if you wanted. Otherwise, it's great!
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07-24-2009, 12:26 PM

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?? "A monkey fell down on a tree."?
You were joking, weren’t you?
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No, I wasn't joking. Thankyou so much, Yuriさん - I have never been able to understand why に is used. (and it turns out that the particle should be から). It is a relief to learn that " に " is incorrect .
しかし、"a monkey" and "fell" also seem incorrect: 猿も木からおちる。 "Even monkeys fall from trees." ですね?


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07-24-2009, 12:49 PM

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Hi.
Could you correct my English?

"General Election"

Prime Minister Aso dissolved the Lower House on July 21st to prepare for a general election to be held on August 30th.
As you may know, Japanese Prime Ministers change rather quickly. Mr. Aso took the seat of Prime Minister after the two previous Prime Ministers resigned.
He was elected by members of the LDP (Liberal Democratic Party). Most people can’t vote when a Prime Minister is elected, as it is the responsibility of ruling party legislators.
They elect their boss, and then drag him down. This would make them appear to outsiders as nothing more than a pack of wild dogs.
Japanese people don’t attempt coup d’états or assassinations. They are meek, docile, and quiet. I sometimes watch news stories on TV of people in other countries protesting against unfair treatment. If those energetic people immigrated to Japan, the country would be changed by their behaviour. I think Japanese politicians may know that, so they ban immigration from other countries.

Thank you.
"Politics make strange bedfellows, but soon they get used to the same bunk."

That's an English saying that came to mind while I read your post. It refers to the fact that politicial interactions seem to combine different kinds of individuals with different viewpoints, but after a short length of time they all end up behaving the same way as previous politicians. Just a little insight, Yuri.

As for the post, I changed a few sentences completely to increase their readability (to my eyes at least) but still tried to keep the central concepts. Even without revision, your strong views on the subject are very clear. It is a valuable insight.

The troubles in Japanese politics are known to some extent even in the Western world. Scandals and quick falls from power seem to be the norm. However, the feeling that people only raise someone up in order to tear them down is a universal human trait. It puzzles me why that happens so often.

The only thing I can think of as a reason is people do so in order to get their views and their desires fulfilled over anyone else's; the direct connection to the power to shape the world as they see fit, without any difficulty or repercussions. When that doesn't happen, the only thing they can think of doing is destroying what they just raised to a higher position.

I suppose I could go on, but then it would become an unproductive rant.

A very informative post, Yuri. Have a great week!


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07-24-2009, 01:38 PM

Editing for minimal change.

"General Election"

The Prime Minister Aso dissolved the Lower House on July 21thst, and a general election will be held on August 30th in Japan.
As you may know, Japanese prime ministers change one after another. are changed in rapid succession.
Mr. Aso took the seat of Prime Minister after two former Prime Ministers’ resignations.
He Mr Aso was elected by LDP (Liberal Democratic Party) members. Almost all the people can’t don't vote when a prime minister is elected, but only ruling Majority Party legislators. (?) can do.
They elect their boss leader, and then drag him down. I guess you would think Japanese people are packs of mutts.
Japanese people don’t attempt a coup d’état nor an assassination. Japanese people are meek, docile and quiet. {へぇえ?} I sometimes watch see people in other countries rise against wanton improper treatment, on TV. If that such energetic people immigrated to Japan, Japan would be occupied over-run by them. I think Japanese politicians may know that, so they ban immigration from other countries.

Correcting to a natural English style.
On July 21st, Prime Minister Aso dissolved Japan's Lower House of Parliament, and a general election will be held on August 30th.
A Japanese Prime Minister is appointed to office by a vote of ((sitting)?) members of the majority party in Parliament; not by general election. I am not sure whether you meant "sitting members of the majority party (in Parliament) select the Prime Minister", or "members of the parliament's majority party select the Prime Minister"
As you may know, a Prime Minister's tenure is usually short: Mr Aso is the third Prime Minister to have been appointed during the latest session, following the resignations of his two predecessors. Parliamentarians elect their leader, only to drag him down. People could be forgiven for thinking of Japanese politicians as just a pack of mutts.
I sometimes see on TV, revolts against corrupt and oppressive governments. The people of Japan, being ...., are not inclined to revolutions or coups d'etat. Could it be that successive Japanese governments have opposed large scale immigration to protect Japan from being over-run by agressive people?

** To some extent, yes. History (pre-Meiji in particular) so attests.**


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07-24-2009, 01:48 PM

That first batch of changes only serves to remind me of Christmas. It's a blog post, not a Christmas tree.


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07-25-2009, 02:39 AM

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"Politics make strange bedfellows, but soon they get used to the same bunk."

That's an English saying that came to mind while I read your post. It refers to the fact that politicial interactions seem to combine different kinds of individuals with different viewpoints, but after a short length of time they all end up behaving the same way as previous politicians. Just a little insight, Yuri.

As for the post, I changed a few sentences completely to increase their readability (to my eyes at least) but still tried to keep the central concepts. Even without revision, your strong views on the subject are very clear. It is a valuable insight.

The troubles in Japanese politics are known to some extent even in the Western world. Scandals and quick falls from power seem to be the norm. However, the feeling that people only raise someone up in order to tear them down is a universal human trait. It puzzles me why that happens so often.

The only thing I can think of as a reason is people do so in order to get their views and their desires fulfilled over anyone else's; the direct connection to the power to shape the world as they see fit, without any difficulty or repercussions. When that doesn't happen, the only thing they can think of doing is destroying what they just raised to a higher position.

I suppose I could go on, but then it would become an unproductive rant.

A very informative post, Yuri. Have a great week!
Hi, Koir. Thanks a lot!
May I write what you wrote in my blog?
I’m sure your view is very informative to Japanese people.
I thought I needed to study other countries’ politics reading your post.
Thank you for your helpful comment.


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If you have questions about my post or Japanese customs, don't hesitate to ask.

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07-25-2009, 02:40 AM

Sure, Yuri


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Sure, Yuri
Thanks.


Hello, I may not understand English very well and I may lack words but I will try to understand you.

If you have questions about my post or Japanese customs, don't hesitate to ask.

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07-26-2009, 04:02 AM

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No, I wasn't joking. Thankyou so much, Yuriさん - I have never been able to understand why に is used. (and it turns out that the particle should be から). It is a relief to learn that " に " is incorrect .
しかし、"a monkey" and "fell" also seem incorrect: 猿も木からおちる。 "Even monkeys fall from trees." ですね?
I'll be honest. I, along with some other members I've talked with, loathe the way you throw in random Japanese words into your English writing. Your lack of respect of the Japanese language is on the same level as those stupid teenagers in the anime section who put in random words like "kawaii" or "sugoi". If you thought you'd look cool by writing the word "but" in Japanese, you're hopeless.

What the heck did you think "恥ずかしい自分は" even meant? If you're incapable of forming the simplest sentence like that, say nothing in Japanese!
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I was hoping that sicko would get banned for good. But a week is good, too. Hope you guys get as much educational talk done as possible in this thread while s/he is away.
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