Please help me to read this English sentence:

[YuriTokoro]

Originally Posted by Koir

Even though many colors of dress shirts are available now, we still call them Y-shirts, or "waishatsu".

Koir, I have a question.
We spell shirt “shatsu”, and Y is wai. So “Y shirt” is waishatsu in Japanese.
Can I write the sentence like this?:
‘Even though many colors of dress shirts are available now, we still call them Y-shirts. In Japanese, it’s “waishatsu".’
Do you understand what I want to say with this sentence?

[Naoko]

Originally Posted by YuriTokoro

Koir, I have a question.
We spell shirt “shatsu”, and Y is wai. So “Y shirt” is waishatsu in Japanese.
Can I write the sentence like this?:
‘Even though many colors of dress shirts are available now, we still call them Y-shirts. In Japanese, it’s “waishatsu".’
Do you understand what I want to say with this sentence?

It made perfect sense to me.

[Koir]

Originally Posted by YuriTokoro

Hi. Koir, thanks.
You are studying accountant, aren’t you? So you will have a formal job, and wear dress shirts almost every day in the future.

That's a possibility, Yuri.

Can “indecipherable” mean like “hard to catch”?
Many Japanese people can’t catch consonants, and they thought it was Y, when they heard while.

Yes, it can. Of course, the word can be *heard*, but not *understood*. I remember in college being at the local McDonald's at the same time as some Chinese people. The biggest obstacle to even beginning to understand the language they speak was not being able to distinguish where one word or phrase ends and the next began.

We spell T-shirt “T shatsu”.
Were the anime films you watched subtitled? You heard Japanese language?

Yes, they were subtitled, and I do hear Japanese dialogue. The subtitles were in English, but the similarities between the text and speech were close enough I could connect them to each other.

Also, I've been watching Youtube videos of an upcoming game for the Nintendo Wii. The game is "Muramasa: Demon Blade" and it does keep the original Japanese language with English subtitles. It may do a lot to get people interested in learning Japanese so they do not need to read subtitles.

Originally Posted by YuriTokoro

Koir, I have a question.
We spell shirt “shatsu”, and Y is wai. So “Y shirt” is waishatsu in Japanese.
Can I write the sentence like this?:
‘Even though many colors of dress shirts are available now, we still call them Y-shirts. In Japanese, it’s “waishatsu".’
Do you understand what I want to say with this sentence?

Yes, I do understand the sentence. It's very well written, and gives additional information to the reader that will increase the understanding of the concepts.

[YuriTokoro]

Originally Posted by Naoko

It made perfect sense to me.

Thank you, Naoko.

[mongkol]

Originally Posted by YuriTokoro

JoshAussie-san, thank you!
I believe that I got understand what "believe in luck" means well.
And you don't say "believe luck".
Thank you very much!
Yuri.

I'm Mongkol I'm new in Japanforum.

[YuriTokoro]

Originally Posted by Koir

The biggest obstacle to even beginning to understand the language they speak was not being able to distinguish where one word or phrase ends and the next began.

Koir, sorry. I’m confused.
Which do you mean with the sentence above?
The biggest obstacle was not “being able to …..”
Or, the biggest obstacle was “being unable to …”

Yes, they were subtitled, and I do hear Japanese dialogue. The subtitles were in English, but the similarities between the text and speech were close enough I could connect them to each other.

I see. So you have heard “Tamaya” watching Japanese films with English subtitled.

Also, I've been watching Youtube videos of an upcoming game for the Nintendo Wii. The game is "Muramasa: Demon Blade" and it does keep the original Japanese language with English subtitles. It may do a lot to get people interested in learning Japanese so they do not need to read subtitles.

I just took a look at some of the Youtube videos. Unfortunately they were in English.

Yes, I do understand the sentence. It's very well written, and gives additional information to the reader that will increase the understanding of the concepts.

Thanks as always, Koir.

[Koir]

Originally Posted by YuriTokoro

Koir, sorry. I’m confused.
Which do you mean with the sentence above?
The biggest obstacle was not “being able to …..”
Or, the biggest obstacle was “being unable to …”

Apologies, Yuri. I was thinking while typing, which resulted in the sentence not being as clear as it should have. Both of the revisions you suggest are essentially the same, differing in how the speaker places emphasis.

Revision:

"The biggest obstacle in understanding what they were saying was being unable to hear when one word or phrase ended and the next word or phrase began."

I see. So you have heard “Tamaya” watching Japanese films with English subtitled.

Indeed I have. And it was subtitled as Tamaya, not as some English revision of the word.

I just took a look at some of the Youtube videos. Unfortunately they were in English.

This is the video I was speaking about. Not sure if it was one of the videos you watched, but here's the link:

YouTube - Muramasa: The Demon Blade Momohime Trailer [HD]

The part with Japanese dialogue and English subtitles starts at the 1:14 mark, with the character and a rather large boar-monster talking at a hot spring.

I did watch the Youtube video you linked to in that earlier post. It was very well done, and quite cute in an everyday comfortable way.

[maymoka]

[QUOTE = YuriTokoro; 563927] Hola, soy Yuri de Japón.
I cant't entender esta frase:
"¿Cómo una creencia en la suerte cambiar la forma en que una persona reacciona a la fortuna buena o mala?"

¿Qué significa "una creencia en la suerte" significa?
¿Quiere decir como "para creer que soy feliz" o "para creer que hay gente suerte y la gente mala suerte"???
Cualquiera, ayúdame, por favor.: Confused:
¡Gracias! [/ QUOTE]

"una creencia en la suerte"quiere decir que a algunos les va mal y piensan que es culpa de no tener "suerte" algunos otros dejan que el destino llamado"suerte"les traiga todo y si no lo hace no hay buena fortuna y si piensan que no la tienen son negativos y asi no pueden ser felices

si te va bien sueles decir "wow que suerte tuve o que suerte tengo" si te ocurren cosas buenas estas positivo y atraes la buena fortuna y "para creer que soy feliz" debo pensarlo y luego lo vere realizado siempre siendo optimista ante todo mas que nada eso te hara sentir bien.......

bien,creo que hablo mucho aun asi quiero dejar lo mas claro posible esto...
la gente que esta positiva y le ocurren cosas buenas se tice que tiene suerte
la gente que es negativa y que por eso atrae cosas malas se dice que tiene mala suerte.

y...."suerte" sucesos fortuitos que pueden salvar de algo malo o pueden hacer que te ocurran muchos....aunq algunos no creen en esto ni suerte ni fortuna ni nada de eso creen que ellos mismos crean su propio destino con sus mismas acciones siempre va a ser "causa->efecto" pienso que son las 2 mis propias acciones mas una gran influencia de la suerte.

[YuriTokoro]

Originally Posted by Koir

Apologies, Yuri. I was thinking while typing, which resulted in the sentence not being as clear as it should have. Both of the revisions you suggest are essentially the same, differing in how the speaker places emphasis.

Revision:

"The biggest obstacle in understanding what they were saying was being unable to hear when one word or phrase ended and the next word or phrase began."

Thank you! Now I see what you meant.
At first, I thought you were able to know where the words or the phrases end and the next began, and there might be some other obstacles. It’s like “The biggest obstacle to even beginning to understand the language they speak was not that being able to distinguish where one word or phrase ends and the next began.”
I’m sorry, this can’t be possible.

This is the video I was speaking about. Not sure if it was one of the videos you watched, but here's the link:

I didn’t understand what the monster was saying. The lines were cut and glued together inadvisably. Maybe when you play the game, you will be able to hear proper Japanese.

I did watch the Youtube video you linked to in that earlier post. It was very well done, and quite cute in an everyday comfortable way.

Thanks! You mean “Our room, your shirts and me”, don’t you?
The song is about an everyday comfortable way.
I’m very happy to know that you understood that, despite the song was in Japanese.

[YuriTokoro]

Originally Posted by maymoka

[QUOTE = YuriTokoro; 563927] Hola, soy Yuri de Japón.
I cant't entender esta frase:
"¿Cómo una creencia en la suerte cambiar la forma en que una persona reacciona a la fortuna buena o mala?"

¿Qué significa "una creencia en la suerte" significa?
¿Quiere decir como "para creer que soy feliz" o "para creer que hay gente suerte y la gente mala suerte"???
Cualquiera, ayúdame, por favor.: Confused:
¡Gracias! [/ QUOTE]

"una creencia en la suerte"quiere decir que a algunos les va mal y piensan que es culpa de no tener "suerte" algunos otros dejan que el destino llamado"suerte"les traiga todo y si no lo hace no hay buena fortuna y si piensan que no la tienen son negativos y asi no pueden ser felices

si te va bien sueles decir "wow que suerte tuve o que suerte tengo" si te ocurren cosas buenas estas positivo y atraes la buena fortuna y "para creer que soy feliz" debo pensarlo y luego lo vere realizado siempre siendo optimista ante todo mas que nada eso te hara sentir bien.......

bien,creo que hablo mucho aun asi quiero dejar lo mas claro posible esto...
la gente que esta positiva y le ocurren cosas buenas se tice que tiene suerte
la gente que es negativa y que por eso atrae cosas malas se dice que tiene mala suerte.

y...."suerte" sucesos fortuitos que pueden salvar de algo malo o pueden hacer que te ocurran muchos....aunq algunos no creen en esto ni suerte ni fortuna ni nada de eso creen que ellos mismos crean su propio destino con sus mismas acciones siempre va a ser "causa->efecto" pienso que son las 2 mis propias acciones mas una gran influencia de la suerte.

I'm sorry, but I seem to be unable to read this.
What language is this?