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I've never heard 'freeter' before. For someone that works part-time, I've heard them being described as a 'part-timer'.


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Hi, Koir. Thanks as always.

I think it wouldn’t be “or”.
I meant that freeter is a person/people who work(s) part-time.
By any chance, do you have the word “freeter” as a English word?
You're probably right about "or". Using "or" in that context changed its purpose into parenthesis. It's not specifically good English, but I see it used from time to time.

At the risk of showing my influences, freeter has become a word I know the meaning of previously. One of the characters in the "Kaicho wa Maid-sama!" anime is described as a freeter, with the subtitle note explaining what it meant.


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I've never heard 'freeter' before. For someone that works part-time, I've heard them being described as a 'part-timer'.
I see.
If that was an English word, my teacher didn't ask me what it was.

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09-17-2010, 02:39 PM

this is wikipedia version about "freeter"

I must admit I have never come across it before.

Freeter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess its like saying FREE-TIMER meaning not working-- just working part time.

some peope do many other things in their free-time. Such as doing hobbies and having fun or volunteering etc.

Our language is changing constantly-- with a lot of AMERICAN influences and of course with texting onmobiles-- which is like shorthand-- that is also changing our language as I suspect it does elsewhere as language is living and changing constantly.


My gr children use many expressions that I don't understand.
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You're probably right about "or". Using "or" in that context changed its purpose into parenthesis. It's not specifically good English, but I see it used from time to time.

At the risk of showing my influences, freeter has become a word I know the meaning of previously. One of the characters in the "Kaicho wa Maid-sama!" anime is described as a freeter, with the subtitle note explaining what it meant.
Hi.

I don’t understand what you mean.

Freeter has become a word you know the meaning of previously?
You mean “freeter” means “a person who works part-time”?
You’ve got to know that in some anime films?
Really!!
I didn’t imagine it.


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this is wikipedia version about "freeter"

I must admit I have never come across it before.

Freeter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hi,dogsbody70!
Thank you for the wiki page.

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Wiki : Freeter (フリーター furītā?) (other spellings below) is a Japanese expression for people between the age of 15 and 34 who lack full time employment or are unemployed, excluding homemakers and students.
Actually, the word does not include homemakers or students.
There seems to be misunderstandings.

I will write about it next time.
Thank you very much.


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Hi.

I don’t understand what you mean.

Freeter has become a word you know the meaning of previously?
You mean “freeter” means “a person who works part-time”?
You’ve got to know that in some anime films?
Really!!
I didn’t imagine it.
"Previously" in this case means "in the past". It's a more formal way of defining the time frame of an event. I was hesitant to reveal where I had seen reference to "freeter" because others may think less of me. I may have been overcautious, I don't know.


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Actually, the word does not include homemakers or students.
There seems to be misunderstandings.

I will write about it next time.
Hi YuriTokoro, can I just call you Yuri?

This is how Google has defined "freeter": define:freeter - Google Search

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excluding homemakers and students.
The word "excluding" carries the direct opposite meaning of "including". It's basically saying "freeter" does not include homemakers or students.
Since Google and you agree with one another, you won't have to write about the explanation of "freeter", but if you want then feel free to do so.

This is a new word to me, and as the definition states, it is a Japanese expression, so it's no wonder that it's appeared in anime and required sidenotes for clarification.

EDIT: Whether "freeter" can be used in formal speech or writing is still unclear. Since your English teacher couldn't understand it either, you should just save it for informal occasions, like this - in a forum. For instance, "Hi guys, I'm a freeter," which incidentally happens to be true. ^_^
If your teacher asks you again, quote the internet's definition.


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By any chance, do you have the word “freeter” as a English word?
Do you know the term 'NEET'? It means 'Not in Education, Employment or Training'. I think this might be the English version of Freeter.
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09-17-2010, 09:02 PM

I've never heard of 'NEET' either. Here, we use the term 'Jobseekers' for people 'Not in Education, Employment or Training', mainly because the benefits you get when not in work here is called 'Jobseekers allowance'.


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