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Do you know the term 'NEET'? It means 'Not in Education, Employment or Training'. I think this might be the English version of Freeter.
From my experience, NEET is more closely associated with "hikikomori".


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Do you know the term 'NEET'? It means 'Not in Education, Employment or Training'. I think this might be the English version of Freeter.
I have forgotten what that meant, you helped me remember, I've seen NEET used in the anime "Eden of the East"
I would be considered a NEET based on the definition.
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I've never heard of 'NEET' either. Here, we use the term 'Jobseekers' for people 'Not in Education, Employment or Training', mainly because the benefits you get when not in work here is called 'Jobseekers allowance'.
Really? Of course I understand what you're saying, but NEET seems to be cropping up in the news here. Probably a gimmicky thing picked up by the conservatives, but did surprise me as, as you pointed it out, I first heard the term in Japan but it's clearly got English origins. Jobseekers to me, are just that; people claiming jobseekers allowance and looking for work (even without much effort or success). A NEET might fall in the same category, but are more likely to not even be doing that much.

@Koir, as I understand it, it has absolutely nothing to do with hikkikomori. Not surprising really as true shut-ins are pretty rare in the UK. NEET's are usually unmarried young people who have pretty much graduated uni, moved home and not been able to find anything to do since. Or simply just left highschool and are living off the bank of mum and dad. Here at least, NEET has nothing to do with your social capabilities. In fact, most NEETs are portrayed as the opposite; education leavers who don't want to, or can't step up to a full adult working life and so are basically messing around or stuck in the in-between space. I think the term is used more in Japan, and then they also have Parasite Singles, which overlaps what the UK terms as a NEET.
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"Previously" in this case means "in the past". It's a more formal way of defining the time frame of an event. I was hesitant to reveal where I had seen reference to "freeter" because others may think less of me. I may have been overcautious, I don't know.
I see.
I will remember that previously mean in the past.
Thank you!


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Hi YuriTokoro, can I just call you Yuri?
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Yes. Call me Yuri.

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The word "excluding" carries the direct opposite meaning of "including". It's basically saying "freeter" does not include homemakers or students.
Since Google and you agree with one another, you won't have to write about the explanation of "freeter", but if you want then feel free to do so.
I’m so sorry. It was my mistake.
I have misread the wiki page.

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EDIT: Whether "freeter" can be used in formal speech or writing is still unclear. Since your English teacher couldn't understand it either, you should just save it for informal occasions, like this - in a forum. For instance, "Hi guys, I'm a freeter," which incidentally happens to be true. ^_^
If your teacher asks you again, quote the internet's definition.
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In 1991, the Japanese Government has defined this word officially.
I think you can use the word as an official Japanese word.


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09-18-2010, 02:28 AM

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Do you know the term 'NEET'? It means 'Not in Education, Employment or Training'. I think this might be the English version of Freeter.
Hi, Columbine.
NEET is a very common word here. We say it ニート.
Freeter have part time jobs or try to get jobs, while NEET don’t.


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I've never heard of 'NEET' either. Here, we use the term 'Jobseekers' for people 'Not in Education, Employment or Training', mainly because the benefits you get when not in work here is called 'Jobseekers allowance'.
NEET does not mean jobseekers in Japan.
Japanese NEET don’t try to get jobs. They don’t want to work. Their parents may support them.
I thing Japanese NEET play games all day long.


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日本語をまるで英単語のように表記するから、議論がか み合わないんじゃないのかなあ・・・

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From my experience, NEET is more closely associated with "hikikomori".
Actually, NEET is different from “hikikomori” here.
Both of them don’t work, but NEET go out while hikikomori don’t.
NEET can go to play about; on the other hand, it’s difficult to get out of the house to hikikomori.
Hikikomori need psychiatric help.


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09-18-2010, 02:45 AM

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Actually, NEET is different from “hikikomori” here.
Both of them don’t work, but NEET go out while hikikomori don’t.
NEET can go to play about; on the other hand, it’s difficult to get out of the house to hikikomori.
Hikikomori need psychiatric help.
Thanks Yuri. I understand now!


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