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so basically only those who had he privilege of attending University are capable of doing great things?
What about the millions who could not go to University? Anyone who is determined to learn and learn something new or useful to the world should have the opportunity but Not everyone has that chance. The latest legislation where students here in England willl leave UNI in heavy debt. There are other ways to learn apart from attending a UNIVERSITY. Our government is cutting funding towards adult education-- so reducing opportunities. ANyone can have a go at something that really interests them, and learning how to teach a foreign language is useful but anyone can do that if they so desire and can afford the costs. I am sorry but the word Superior really gets my goat. Better educated possibly but there are other ways to learn and the old apprenticeship training was an excellent and practical way to learn a skill. As so many of our trades have been taken over to other countries-- here in UK we have lost so many of our industries. Losing many of our traditional skills. Not everyone can take the time or have the finances to afford University. They are fortunate if they have family backing and supporting them. SUKI already thinks she knows everything about everything so who on earth could teach Her anything. There are those who are skilled in their particular field but where would so many be without the ordinary people who do the more mundane jobs. I have aristocratic friends-- their families go back several centuries-- they could make themselves out to be better than lower class people-- but They are anything BUT. THey are the kindest and most generous people I know Yes and SUKI-- You can be really clever and knowledgeable but without Essential Common Sense- you are not much use. WE learn all our lives and I am still learning. I do not consider anyone superior to myself-- more knowledgeable and widely travelled-- etc but superior? NOPE> Thinking oneself superior to others is like the upper class who look down on ordinary folk--thinking they are better-- but Not so. We can all achieve many things in this life-- if we so desire and one does not have to attend University to do so. Evening classes can teach numerous things. I learnt Sign language for the deaf at Evening class-- I taught my self Braille. I have specialised in the Care system over the past fifty years and helped ,any who were searching for their families. I belong to the University of the third age which is for retired people who share their knowledge gained over a life time of work. There are many retired teachers who are glad to pass on their skills and we have a huge variety of opportunities to learn what ever interests us. I shall carry on learning till I die. I study whatever interests me. Young people who have been in the Care system have a really tough start in life. Not many of those have opportunities to go to college or UNi. They are lucky to find somewhere to live or get a good job-- Many end up in the prison system because of lack of proper support. Those children who were exported to some of the Commonwealth countries from England-- often had terrible childhoods and were abused-- with no one to intervene. Think yourself lucky if you had good opportunities to study but don't look down on those who did not.
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05-04-2011, 05:49 AM
dogsbody you seem to be taking things a lot more emotionally and personally these days than when you first joined, and were very reasonable
I say people with degrees are better. you say people with experience are better I agree I didn't say degrees are better than experience if both people have experience, are the same height, age, have the same IQ, are virtually identical otherwise, then the person with a degree is better... The degree to which a poster must make stipulations, clarifications etc on this forum at the cost of being lynched is beginning to get tiresome. Clearly having a degree is not some kind of final say on a person's position in the social ladder. Please don't read into things ideas which aren't there. I'm more than positive that each person in this thread who said that people with degrees are better/superior would easily agree that there are myriads of people without degrees who are far superior than a plethora of people with degrees for a variety of other factors which may outweigh the possession of a degree.
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