Obama vs. McCain

[noodle]

Originally Posted by koaku

US Racist?lool Never heard about that..I mean if you compare to other countries..

mec, l'amerique est l'un des plus raciste pays du monde... tu pense que ce n'est pas le cas car tu habite en france. haha... et tout le mond sais que la france est le pire des pires...

[koaku]

Originally Posted by noodle

mec, l'amerique est l'un des plus raciste pays du monde... tu pense que ce n'est pas le cas car tu habite en france. haha... et tout le mond sais que la france est le pire des pires...

Bahh ouai..attend lool La France niveau racisme on est a des année lumiere des U.S!lol C'est la Mère des Racistes la france lol..Meme les Pays Bas regarde ce qu'il s'y passe maintenant...Nan sérieux moi j'y suis resté que 1 ans au U.S mais je l'ai pas ressentis..je vis et je suis née en france on me le fais savoir depuis toujours que je suis noir moi à paris..lol

[koaku]

loool bah ouai mais bon....pour moi sérieu tu peut etre raciste je m'en fous mais ici y sont hypocrite en plus et mesquin alors c'est le comble!

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by MMM

Unless I misread you, you said Obama needed to show some backbone, rather than rely on his race, which is what he has done until now.

I'm afraid you did mis-read it a bit. I did say that he needed to show backbone but that he had actually been doing this

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by koaku

ok lool Then answer to that...Who "made" America? French?..English?..Spanish?..

Nobody made America but they did make it what it is. The Native Americans lived there initially, the Spanish found it and the Anglo-Saxons conquered it and ultimately it became a Masonic state following "interesting" philosophies.

[Paul11]

Definitely McCain. Obama's background is highly suspicious and smacks of rampant corruption. He is appealing because he speaks well and has charisma. But he is a complete socialist. He wants to tax us more, which will burden the middle class, who carries the world on their shoulders.
Obama speaks peace, but he and his church have shown their allegiance to our enemy's and murderous groups of terrorists.
He wants to talk to people, but that would lend legitimacy to them.
If you watch his speeches he never says anything but "Change." thant could mean anything ands he's relying on well meaning people to project their own ideas to that message. Everything he say's in his speeches is an untruth or something designesd to not really say anything.
Pay attention to his background and the Rezco scandal

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Paul11

Definitely McCain. Obama's background is highly suspicious and smacks of rampant corruption. He is appealing because he speaks well and has charisma. But he is a complete socialist. He wants to tax us more, which will burden the middle class, who carries the world on their shoulders.

Again with the "suspicious". None of the anti-Obama folk will explain what there "suspicions" are. Just that he is "suspicious" and "shady" (two words used on this thread).

If you want to call him a socialist in terms that he thinks all people should have access to at least a certain level of basic services, then yes, I would agree.

Rebublicans use the word "socialism" as a equal to "communism" and it confuses people.

There is an effort to institute socialized medicine in the US. Socialized medicine is the standard for most industrialized nations in the world. Japan, UK, Canada, France, most of Europe, most of Asia is socialized medicine. The US is not. We have to pay incredible insurance costs that generally do not actually pay when a real crisis happens.

Why don't they pay? Because health care is so expensive.

Why is health care so expensive? Because the lawsuit insurance the health care providers pay is so high, they have to charge that much.

Why is the lawsuit insurance so high? Because people are paying out-of-pocket for heathcare, and at these prices, if they don't get served perfectly, they sue.

Bottom line: Health care is a business in America when it shouldn't be.

Socialism Socialism Socialism...

We have socialized police forces. You don't have to have insurance to call the police in America. Call 911 and they will arrive.

We have socialized fire departments. You don't have to have insurance to have the right to call the fire department. Your house is on fire, they will come.

And yet, if you break your ankle trying to help a neighbor get a cat out of a tree you will expect to pay around 800 dollars...just for the ambulance ride to the hospital! That is before the ER entry fees...

Originally Posted by Paul11

Obama speaks peace, but he and his church have shown their allegiance to our enemy's and murderous groups of terrorists.

[I repeat myself because blind people cannot see]

Obama has denounced his preacher. He has rejected his comments and is no longer a member of that church.

On the same subject:

McCain has denounced his preacher. He has rejected his comments and is no longer a member of that church.

Would you want to be held responsible for something someone else said?

I won't even go into how ignorant your implications of Obama supporting our enemies, just to save you the embarrassment.

Originally Posted by Paul11

He wants to talk to people, but that would lend legitimacy to them.
If you watch his speeches he never says anything but "Change." thant could mean anything ands he's relying on well meaning people to project their own ideas to that message. Everything he say's in his speeches is an untruth or something designesd to not really say anything.
Pay attention to his background and the Rezco scandal

Open up your eyes, my friend. America's economy is in the sh*tter. We are being forced to pay for a war we can't afford. Our allies are pulling out. unemployment jumped just this MONTH. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of jobs have been lost in America THIS QUARTER. Millions are losing thier homes to the mortgage crisis. Schools are firing teachers and librarians by the busloads. Our government gives tax breaks to corporations that are sending all their low-wage work to India and China. We used to fret about our trade imbalance with Japan 20 year ago over a few hundred million dollars. Our trade imbalance with China is in the billions! I haven't even mentioned gas prices.

So yes. We need a CHANGE. Americans want CHANGE. Obama will bring that to us. McCain won't.

[pumpum]

damn thats a nice speech !

u sure u dont work for obama lol ?

[noodle]

MMM, have you seen Sicko? I've always wanted to know how true that documentary is. Do you think its exagurated or not? because it definately is a little exagurated about France.

[Asakura]

Sounds like we're spiraling into another Great Depression......