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View Poll Results: Who would you vote for in the US election if you could?
John McCain (right/Republican) 27 23.68%
Barrack Obama (left/Democrat) 80 70.18%
Other (please do tell) 7 6.14%
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When your first line is "this will come off racist but" you can be sure some ignorance is soon to follow.
well that is right >.> all I know is what I have been told =/ sooooooo yeah pretty much my bad >.>


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yeah mark it is good to do some precisive studying before mentiong something like that with right facts
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yeah mark it is good to do some precisive studying before mentiong something like that with right facts
good point........and if MMM would be kind enough to erase my part of the quote.....you don;t have to...


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you believe that he does not have muslim ties because he said so.
hahahaha

you think those groups like obama because he is a good candidate?
hahahahah

the guy has no experience. he has muslim ties. OBAMA IS SHADDDDYYY
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you believe that he does not have muslim ties because he said so.
hahahaha

you think those groups like obama because he is a good candidate?
hahahahah

the guy has no experience. he has muslim ties. OBAMA IS SHADDDDYYY
Evidence please.



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you believe that he does not have muslim ties because he said so.
hahahaha

you think those groups like obama because he is a good candidate?
hahahahah

the guy has no experience. he has muslim ties. OBAMA IS SHADDDDYYY
President Bush has closer ties to the Muslim world than Barrack Obama.
C'mon people.

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06-06-2008, 02:08 AM

One thing's for sure... the next administration better make education a top priority. I've seen some shockingly misinformed, irrational and paranoid posts in this thread.
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Not so sure about Obama anymore. His views on Jerusalem don't make sense. He said that it should stay part of Israel, and should stay undevided. I have two problems with that; first, he should just leave these kind of issues to be sorted out between the people of Israel and Palestine. I don't think he should concern himself with it, and he shouldn't make himself involved just to get more votes.
Secondly, if he thinks that Jerusalem is undivided, then he's not as smart as I thought he was
I personally agree that Jerusalem should stay a part of Israel. What's wrong with that? Obviously when he says it should REMAIN undivided he is making clear his stance on Israeli-Palestinian relations. A position he has to make clear considering Israel is the US closest ally in the Middle East and a lot of Jews live in America.
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Unfortunately the US President doesn't have the priviledge of keeping his opinions in Israel a secret. There was also a slam campaign going on and he had to set the record straight.
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Here it came up on google

Yahoo! Answers - Is the proposed American Presidential Candidate Barak Obama a muslim? Would you vote for him?

Here's a RECENT one!!

Monday, October 23, 2006
Is Barack Obama Lying About His Life Story?

This article comes from Free Republic. On the Free Republic website there is a link to a Yahoo News Page which no longer works. Could this article be bogus?

Columnist Says Barack Obama 'Lied To The American People;'Asks Publisher to Withdraw Obama's BookTuesday August 10, 9:22 pm ET

NEW YORK, Aug. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- Out2.com's independent contrarian columnist, Andy Martin, will publish a column and hold simultaneous news conferences in New York and London on Wednesday, August 11th to disclose he believes Barack Obama is a political fraud who "lied to the American people." Martin has asked Crown Books to stop sales of Obama's book because of its fraudulent content. Martin says Obama may be a threat to the Jewish community.

NEWS CONFERENCE DETAILS:

New York:Time/date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:00 A.M.Location: Northeast Corner of Fifth Avenue and 65thStreet (Temple Emanu-El)

London:Time/date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 4:00 P.M.Location: 2 Dryden Mansions, Queens Club Gardens London W14"I feel sad having to expose Barack Obama," says Martin, "but the man is a complete fraud. The truth is going to surprise, and disappoint, and outrage many people who were drawn to him. He has lied to the American people, and he has sought to misrepresent his own heritage.

"Obama's life story is vastly different from the one he portrays. My point: if he will lie about his mother and father, what else is he lying about? Can we expect 'bimbo eruptions?'"

Fiction: Obama stated in his Convention speech: 'My father ... grew up herding goats.' The 'goat herder' claim has been repeated endlessly. It is a lie.

Fact: Obama's grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama was a prominent and wealthy farmer. His son, Obama's father, was a child of privilege, not privation. He was an outstanding student, not a herdsman.

"Fiction: Obama was given an 'African' name. Fact: Obama is a Muslim who has concealed his religion. I am a strong supporter of the Muslim community, and I believe Muslims have been scapegoated. Obama has a great opportunity to be forthright. Instead, he has treated his Muslim heritage as a dark secret. His grandfather was named 'Hussein.' That is an Arabic-Muslim, not African, name. Hussein was a devout Muslim and named his son, Barack Senior, 'Baraka.' Baraka is an Arabic word meaning 'blessed.' Baraka comes out of the Koran and Arabic, not Africa.

"Barack Senior was also a devoted Muslim, and also chose a Muslim name for his son, our own Barack Obama, Junior. Again, his name was an Arabic and Koranic.

Obama has spent a lifetime running from his family heritage and religious heritage. Would his father have given his son a Koranic name if the father was not a devout Muslim? Obama's stepfather was also a Muslim. Obama will be the first Muslim-heritage senator; he should be proud of that fact. There is nothing to be ashamed of in any of the three great Abrahamic religions.

"Fiction: Obama Senior was a harmless student 'immigrant' who came to the United States only to study.

Fact: Obama was part of one of the most corrupt and violent organizations in Africa: the Kenyatta regime. Obama's father ran back to Kenya soon after the British left. It is likely Obama's father had Mau Mau sympathies or connections, or he would not have been welcomed into the murderous inner circle of rapists, murderers, and arsonists.

I believe Obama's secret shame at his family history of rape, murder and arson is what actualizes him. Our research is not yet complete. We are seeking to examine British colonial records. Our investigation to date has drawn on information on three continents.

"And what about Obama's beloved Kenyan brothers and sisters? None of his family was invited to Boston to share his prominence. Are his relatives being kept in the closet? Where are they? More secrecy, more prevarication.

"It is time for Barack Obama to stop presenting a fantasy to the American people. We are forgiving and many would still support him. It may well be that his concealment is meant to endanger Israel. His Muslim religion would obviously raise serious questions in many Jewish circles where Obama now enjoys support," Martin states.

"Our investigation is continuing. In he meantime, Crown Books should stop selling Obama's novelization of his life. We have asked Crown to do that. Obama is living a lie."

RESOURCES: Martin's columns at Out2.com (Govt & Politics); E-mail: [email protected]

We shall see. I have never heard anything bad about Barak Obama previously. However, I must admit, his meteoric rise does concern me. He is charismatic, no doubt. But, one of the things I have always thought was important about the process by which America selects its leaders is that it is rare for a leader to come out of nowhere, ascending to high political position without an extensive and well-known political history.

Who is Barak Obama? We shall see, I would imagine.

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but like i said, I'm not a hypocrite. I dont know where the sources came from, or the sources' sources. All of you aren't providing sources either. The only way to know for sure what has happened in history is if you were actually there at every moment (i believe), which is obviously impossible. No source can be stated as fact, i believe. A perfect example is the bible
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