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07-24-2008, 12:01 PM
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Second- Again not the impression I get. Though we can argue about this all day but I feel it is irrelevant. Perhaps you could give me a better example? Third- Please show me this practice of journalism that you believe I'm not seeing and why you believe this? Really I want to see what I'm missing out on. Because so far you and noodle have produced little to support your argument other than provide me assumptions and reasoning that I simply don't agree with. Fourth- I have already explained my REASONING why in this instance I believe the Western media over the west. If you don't agree with this then fine. But you haven't really produced reasoning and/or sources that go against that reasoning. 
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07-24-2008, 12:12 PM
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The rest of your post is somewhat irrelevant. Good for you that you watch all those channels to make up your mind. And since you believe you have proof (of a Western media agenda concerning Tibet or otherwise) please front with it. Because frankly I'm beginning to get bored with this conversation. Your going round in circles and I'm finding I have to repeat myself. And yes I acknowledged your (that) point (that it is much better to get both sides of the story) and I agree with that point. What I'm saying is that a) I did b) I reasoned that the Western side was telling the truth for the reasons I've stated earlier.
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07-24-2008, 01:05 PM
I see no reason for fear if China becomes a Superpower. Technically China is already a superpower and has a permanent seat as one of the big 5 in the United Nations a growing economy and political in Asia and in the west. Being a superpower in the 21st century is the same as it was in the past. Every country is depended on one another as a world economy. Though agree with and disagree with some of China polices i see no reason for them not to take a broader role in the international community. So i dont understand the fear its not like its in their best interest to go around starting wars and invading other countries. As much as my country the U.S. complains about Chinese polices and vice versa we are both dependent on one another and for the most part have pretty good relations both politically and economically.
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07-24-2008, 01:43 PM
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Top 25 Censored Stories for 2007 1. Future of Internet Debate Ignored by Media 2. Halliburton Charged with Selling Nuclear Technologies to Iran 3. Oceans of the World in Extreme Danger 4. Hunger and Homelessness Increasing in the US 5. High-Tech Genocide in Congo 6. Federal Whistleblower Protection in Jeopardy 7. US Operatives Torture Detainees to Death in Afghanistan and Iraq 8. Pentagon Exempt from Freedom of Information Act 9. The World Bank Funds Israel-Palestine Wall 10. Expanded Air War in Iraq Kills More Civilians 11. Dangers of Genetically Modified Food Confirmed 12. Pentagon Plans to Build New Landmines 13. New Evidence Establishes Dangers of Roundup 14. Homeland Security Contracts KBR to Build Detention Centers in the US 15. Chemical Industry is EPA’s Primary Research Partner 16. Ecuador and Mexico Defy US on International Criminal Court 17. Iraq Invasion Promotes OPEC Agenda 18. Physicist Challenges Official 9-11 Story 19. Destruction of Rainforests Worst Ever 20. Bottled Water: A Global Environmental Problem 21. Gold Mining Threatens Ancient Andean Glaciers 22. $Billions in Homeland Security Spending Undisclosed 23. US Oil Targets Kyoto in Europe 24. Cheney’s Halliburton Stock Rose Over 3000 Percent Last Year 25. US Military in Paraguay Threatens Region I don´t wanna speak for anyone else but I think the main point u seem to not understand is that all media is biased and therefor most certainly have an agenda/spread propaganda. now I know u know this, but somehow I get the impression u don´t seem to realize it. I think you are extremely naive if u think that ´western´ media does not lie or censor. remember just before the war in Iraq started? remember how the US media spread the propaganda about the war and so called war on terror? remember how the Statue of Saddam went down etc? the US government AND media like CNN and Foxx have been constantly spreading lies and propganda. (which I believe many Americans today know as well....well atleast that jhon Stuart Daily show dude seems to know). look at how the ´western media´ have been reporting the Palestine/Israel situation....yes the last couple of years things have been changing in favour of Palestine but lets keep it real here. politics and media are heavily linked....there is no question about that. If there ever was a free media then the things would have been much different.... check this out: Deep Thoughts from an Adroit Ape: Top 25 Unreported News Stories for 2007: failures of the "free press" Project Censored is a media research group out of Sonoma State University which tracks the news published in independent journals and newsletters. From these, Project Censored compiles an annual list of 25 news stories of social significance that have been overlooked, under-reported or self-censored by the country's major national news media." Top 25 Censored Stories for 2008 | Project Censored Top 25 Censored Stories for 2008 #1 No Habeas Corpus for “Any Person” #2 Bush Moves Toward Martial Law # 3 AFRICOM: US Military Control of Africa’s Resources # 4 Frenzy of Increasingly Destructive Trade Agreements #5 Human Traffic Builds US Embassy in Iraq #6 Operation FALCON Raids #7 Behind Blackwater Inc. #8 KIA: The US Neoliberal Invasion of India #9 Privatization of America’s Infrastructure # 10 Vulture Funds Threaten Poor Nations’ Debt Relief # 11 The Scam of “Reconstruction” in Afghanistan # 12 Another Massacre in Haiti by UN Troops # 13 Immigrant Roundups to Gain Cheap Labor for US Corporate Giants # 14 Impunity for US War Criminals # 15 Toxic Exposure Can Be Transmitted to Future Generations on a “Second Genetic Code” #16 No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11 # 17 Drinking Water Contaminated by Military and Corporations # 18 Mexico’s Stolen Election # 19 People’s Movement Challenges Neoliberal Agenda # 20 Terror Act Against Animal Activists # 21 US Seeks WTO Immunity for Illegal Farm Payments # 22 North Invades Mexico # 23 Feinstein’s Conflict of Interest in Iraq # 24 Media Misquotes Threat From Iran’s President # 25 Who Will Profit from Native Energy? is it a coincidence that the NOS,BBC,RTL,CNN,Canvas etc all report the same news topics? no I´m not on some conspiracy theory type of shizzle just saying what I´m saying... just compare all newschannels all over the world....why don´t u check out an Indian/Russian/Morrocan/Dutch/Chinese and American news site or channel tonight, compare the topics and how they are told and look at how politically the countries are with eachother etc. screw it, here is that buddha quote: Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true.
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07-25-2008, 11:52 PM
I can't wade through all the stuff on this board since I last checked in. What a noise!
 It boils down to the fact that all news outlets (including papers) endorse a candidate and present a political bias. It's only a problem when a news outlet pretends thier unbiased when slanting a story. The difference between this and Chinese (all communist and dictatorship) news outlets is that they are owned by the state and are a tool to try to control info and popluation. They don't want people to know what's going on. (Whereas CNN and FOX want mostly just to make money) North Korea is an exellent example where this is very successful. I can't take it seriously when people compare the bias of CNN and Fox to that of a chinese commuist news media.
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07-26-2008, 04:04 PM
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Noodle and ivionk3y are saying that the Western media has the motive and ability to carry out and execute an anti-Chinese political agenda with regard to the Tibetan situation. I'm saying the idea is ludicrous and that while the media exaggerates to sell a story so that they can get your attention, the idea that it lies AS A WHOLE is farfetched (remember we're discussing WESTERN media rather than individual networks/publications.) I'm also saying that when you look at the motives China may have for lying as well as carrying on suspiciously during the incident (not allowing foreign reporters in for example) compared with any Western motive for lying then China doesn't look so good. It was with that reasoning (combined with the knowledge of everything else I've displayed in this thread) that I believe I have fulfilled the last part of that Buddhist quote that I've highlighted.
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07-27-2008, 01:08 PM
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Yes and I believe I profided ´proof´ for that dude. how come ALL(if not Most) those ´western´ newschannels Ignored all that ´news´?(and all choose the same news). they all gave attention to other news or other retarded news topics. we are talking about Cnn/foxx/bbc/Nos/rtl/canvas and a zillion other channels that all seem to conviently ignore certain news....politics control way more than u think. just like economics controls politics can´t u c the relevance from the links I posted? how come CNN and BBC etc ignored all those big news topics? why are you so certain about what u believe China has done? because u saw it on Cnn? u have not fullfilled any part of that Buddha quote because u still refuse to look at all things individuelly/objectively.
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07-27-2008, 01:23 PM
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And yes I have fulfilled that part of Buddha's quote because I used my own reason to determine what I BELIEVE to be true. I mean seriously... apart from going there myself and doing my own investigation, how do you propose that I view things individually? Agreeing with you? Don't make me laugh.
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07-27-2008, 01:30 PM
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Disagreeing with someone when the full facts are not at hand means you are not fulfilling the quote.  Truth Hurts LIFE THREATENING Lifestyles A HITMAN, A NUN Lovers
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