China: New Superpower?

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y

In respect of the Buddha quote, I think it means that you acquire a whole lot more information and keep your mind open to things. You cannot say you've fulfilled it when you have already formed an opinion without knowing the full facts that may be out there. I mean at the end of the day I think this quote ultimately means to keep your mind open since humans are finite.
Disagreeing with someone when the full facts are not at hand means you are not fulfilling the quote.

That's ridiculuous. I can form an opinion. Of course my opinion is not set in stone rather it is conditional. At the end of the day the facts that ARE at hand are the basis of my opinion.

The quote is saying to "use your OWN reason" rather than to "trust nobody"

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Tenchu

That is arrogant.

People like you will complain about polution in one thread and then complain about their clean up methods in the other.

You have a vendetta, you are blind. Athletes can not run in that city if the cars are moving.

As for China. During the Imperial age countries became Imperial one at a time. The same thing is happening with super powers. America and Russia were first, now India and China. Iran will emerge soon if it is not attacked, also, I think.

Don't tell me what I will do in one thread and what I will do in another just to fit your profile of me.

I have no vendetta and I can see just fine.

Athletes cannot run in that city if the cars are moving. That is exactly my point. The goverment there looks hardly passed Thursday for the damages for something that can benefit them today.

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

That's ridiculuous. I can form an opinion. Of course my opinion is not set in stone rather it is conditional. At the end of the day the facts that ARE at hand are the basis of my opinion.

The quote is saying to "use your OWN reason" rather than to "trust nobody"

What about it is ridiculous?
Also what facts at hand are you talking about? I mean there is obviously a problem with your conclusion based on the facts which YOU know about, which is why people are arguing with you about the Chinese media.
The same goes for me of course but I never said the Buddhist quote was infallable.

[Thunda]

Originally Posted by Paul11

And lastly, joshaussie, you change your avatar more often than I change my underwear.

Ew dude. Gross.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y

What about it is ridiculous?
Also what facts at hand are you talking about? I mean there is obviously a problem with your conclusion based on the facts which YOU know about, which is why people are arguing with you about the Chinese media.
The same goes for me of course but I never said the Buddhist quote was infallable.

The part where you tell me that I can't have an opinion.

Yes FACTS I know about. For example how the media works, how China's state censorship works etc. Facts that I have based my REASONING on. The reason people like you and noodle are arguing with me is because it is obvious that these are FACTS you DON'T know about. Rather you and noodle would rather entertain conspiracy theories and mistrust of the West because you want to defend China for whatever reason.

As for the buddhist quote. There is nothing wrong with it. It's a good quote and can actually be used as a critique of religions such as Islam and Christianity which demand loyalty to a particular way or set of thinking (I've seen the quote before). But I digress....

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Tenchu

I would like to sit you as prime minister for one day for a country that is that populated. See what solutions you could come up with. Yes, I am sure you would crack down on corruption, but the majority of the other issues that get under your skin are not as easily fixed as I think you are suggesting.

Who said it was easy? Especially when the giant ball is rolling as fast as it is away from enviromental consideration, safety and health. It takes a lot of work to change a culture, but if China wants to be respected on the world stage like other developed countries there are some things that need to be done.

[Fisher]

yeah, China will be the new superpower of world! once we become the most powerful country, we'll pay all the debts which u owe us back, wait and see, u guyz!! China will be the most dangerous country to you!!

[noodle]

Originally Posted by MMM

Who said it was easy? Especially when the giant ball is rolling as fast as it is away from enviromental consideration, safety and health. It takes a lot of work to change a culture, but if China wants to be respected on the world stage like other developed countries there are some things that need to be done.

Wow, That has to be one of the most racist/ignorant things I've ever seen you say about China. Are you really suggesting that the chinese Culture needs to change?
I don't know what it is with you, but you seem to be just like most Japanese people I've met (there is to this day hatred between the two, and it's NOT only from China's side, which I'm pretty sure you believe also). So before you go shooting your guns off about China again, without even actually knowing what the Chinese are like, or what CHINA is like, I suggest you turn off your TV and go visit China.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Tenchu

You would probably find China making enviromentally friendly products when the American market starts to demand it...

Most the other problems is because of poverty. People have a job to do, but in China they dont have enough money to do it properly.

They have money...it's how they choose to spend it. The trade deficit with the US is in the hundreds of billions of dollars.

America demands the environmentally products, but it is easier for the factories just to say "OK" and sign a form than actually do it.

It's America's fault for not inspecting as closely as Japan does, but even Japan has been burned.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by noodle

Wow, That has to be one of the most racist/ignorant things I've ever seen you say about China. Are you really suggesting that the chinese Culture needs to change?
I don't know what it is with you, but you seem to be just like most Japanese people I've met (there is to this day hatred between the two, and it's NOT only from China's side, which I'm pretty sure you believe also). So before you go shooting your guns off about China again, without even actually knowing what the Chinese are like, or what CHINA is like, I suggest you turn off your TV and go visit China.

Noodle, please back off of me. You jump on every statement I make like I wear a white hood and burn crosses for a living.

I said it takes a lot of work to change a culture. That is different than saying China's culture needs to change.

When I say "culture" here I am not talking about race and ethnicity, but (I thought I was pretty clear), I am talking about the culture of enviromentalism, safety and health that I read in my worthless western news and see on my worthless western news channels.