6.684 Billion People, 30 Amur Leopards...

[Suki]

Dude, almost 20000 children die EVERY DAY of hunger, people don't seem to care about that yet you guys expect them to care about... leopards going extinct? >.>'

[Odin]

Originally Posted by Henbaka

Huh not to start up too much OT but, huh? A person can't just "evolve" during his lifetime like that. Sure, with the right substances he could be that strong perhaps, though...

Not even really with substances. The average male gorilla is 4 to 8 times stronger than the strongest humans. They guesstimate that the strongest gorillas might be up to 12 times as strong. Even if a man could take substances to gain that kind of muscle strength, his skeletal structure could not take the forces. His bones would snap like twigs.

{back to the topic}

[EveV]

Originally Posted by Suki

Dude, almost 20000 children die EVERY DAY of hunger, people don't seem to care about that yet you guys expect them to care about... leopards going extinct? >.>'

Yea
Like Peta for example.
<<

At least they care about something lmfao.

[Suki]

Originally Posted by EveV

Yea
Like Peta for example.
<<

At least they care about something lmfao.

Well yeah, I'm against any form of animal abuse or cruelty but I believe humans should look after humans before they start caring about other species. I think a human's life is worth more than any animal's.

[Henbaka]

Originally Posted by Odin

Not even really with substances. The average male gorilla is 4 to 8 times stronger than the strongest humans. They guesstimate that the strongest gorillas might be up to 12 times as strong. Even if a man could take substances to gain that kind of muscle strength, his skeletal structure could not take the forces. His bones would snap like twigs.

{back to the topic}

Yeah, actually I meant "get really strong", not "as strong as a gorilla". But anyways, we havent really tried that all out with substances, so it's hard to know (atleast publicly) Back to subject!

Originally Posted by Suki

Well yeah, I'm against any form of animal abuse or cruelty but I believe humans should look after humans before they start caring about other species. I think a human's life is worth more than any animal's.

God forbid we care about more than one thing at the same time!
But hey, caring about only ourselves has worked out great so far!

[Jaydelart]

Originally Posted by Suki

Dude, almost 20000 children die EVERY DAY of hunger, people don't seem to care about that yet you guys expect them to care about... leopards going extinct? >.>'

A lot of people haven't donated money to hungry children overseas... But that doesn't necessarily mean they don't care.

Sometimes people have to worry about feeding their own families, before they can worry about feeding someone else -- before they can work to save an endangered species of animal.

Many of us do care...
However, the people that have the most influence in these situations are the people that are directly involved. And we can only hope that these people work hard to better themselves.

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by Suki

Dude, almost 20000 children die EVERY DAY of hunger, people don't seem to care about that yet you guys expect them to care about... leopards going extinct? >.>'

I bought that up in a thread someone else made and got a much harsher response than you have just now >.>
The fact is though that these leopards are in an even worse position at the moment and there is no denying that. Also, unlike other animals, the lives of Leopards are not placed above the lives of Humans. That was the problem I had with a previous thread.
Obviously both things need addressing.

Originally Posted by Henbaka

Huh not to start up too much OT but, huh? A person can't just "evolve" during his lifetime like that. Sure, with the right substances he could be that strong perhaps, though...

I dunno what you mean by "evolve" then in the first place. Are you using it figuratively? If so then pardon my understanding of it in the first instance.

Anyway, I was just kidding about the Gorilla thing but I still believe that a person can do anything. Perhaps they won't be stronger but with something like martial arts, I bet they could out fight that Gorilla easily
All supposition of course

[MissMisa]

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y

I bought that up in a thread someone else made. However the fact is that these leopards are in an even worse position at the moment and there is no denying that.
Obviously both things need addressing.

Yeah exactly. As someone I think already mentioned, it is possible to care about both things at the same time. And also, as the title of this thread suggests, [even though it sounds awful to speak of it this way] - we have more than enough humans for our survival. Though it is still a terrible situation that nobody would want to go through, so I see no harm in caring about these things in equal measure.

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by MissMisa

Yeah exactly. As someone I think already mentioned, it is possible to care about both things at the same time. And also, as the title of this thread suggests, [even though it sounds awful to speak of it this way] - we have more than enough humans for our survival. Though it is still a terrible situation that nobody would want to go through, so I see no harm in caring about these things in equal measure.

Indeed, I definitely have a problem when one places more value over another. Some cultures do actually do that.

[allie2590]

I think every animal is important for this planet and to other animals, so I don't think there are inferior. Just because they may not be as intelligent as we are doesn't mean they should be killed for stupid reasons.

I do think the amur leopard is cute, but you have to remember that it's important to protect animals that aren't so cute, as well. They are just as important.