McCain's Speech

[Sutiiven]

wow i guess his father was a lucky man to live then. I think its crap Mccain was always doing community things as well.


but i guess i have to respect others views tho i may not agree tho in general i normally do not care but this one got my attention.

[MMM]

I have never been so disgusted as I was today by the two ads the McCain campaign put out today.

YouTube - Education


Watch this ad. And know that Obama supported a bill that passed (with both Democratic support and Republican support) to teach kindergarten children how to tell an adult they have been touched inappropriately.

Then that Obama called McCain's economic package "lipstick on a pig".

Here was the ad in response:

YouTube - John McCain Lipstick on Pig Ad re: Gov. Sarah Palin v Obama

The ad was pulled a few hours later, but it goes to show how low this Republican Party will go to win this election. They have to go low. They can't win on present record.

NBC is pissed they used Katie Couric in that ad and Obama is pissed that the WHOLE quote wasn't used (to describe his economic policy)

McCain likes that term, too

YouTube - McCAIN: LIPSTICK ON PIG OK FOR HILLARY Sarah Palin Too Frail to Handle It?

Get ready for the Republicans to try to steamroll this election with everything but issues. It is already happening.

[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by Sangetsu

You say "most"? You've obviously never served yourself, otherwise you would know how truly ignorant that statement is. I spent 6 years in the Army, and I know what I am talking about.

I'll rephrase. Most that I know have joined for the reasons I've mentioned...mostly the latter. Couldn't find work and had to do something to make an income.

You should find my post insulting because it was meant to be.

Have I in any way insulted your opinion or your purposely? I respect your opinion on why you choose to vote for McCain, even if I don't agree with it. Things would go much smoother around here if more people actually did that.

In my post I said "most soldiers", not all. There are some who enlist because of a lack of other options, but that number is, and always has been a minority.

I said "most" too, not "all", so I don't see what the problem is. I know people who join the service because they truly want to. For instance, my mother's friend's son enlisted, and was shipped off to Iraq last September. His mother was, and still, a nervous wreck over it.

Since when is "political" experience become a "must-have" on one's resume if one wants to be a leader? The word "politician" is synonymous with "crook" in modern language. Is there a rule that says we must replace crooks with more crooks? America is supposed to be led by the people, not by a hereditary class of politicians.

I'd still put someone who's been a governor or a mayor and weigh that experience over military, especially since not everyone has been in the military.

Don't ever vote with your heart, vote with your head. Vote for the best person, the the best sounding or the best looking person. People who put words or appearance above substance do so because they have no substance.

I disagree with this. As I said much earlier in the other thread, I weigh the pros and cons of the issues that each candidate proposes. Whichever candidate seems to have the most pros, that I agree will benefit the country, that's what I go with. To me, Obama has more pros than McCain's when it comes to the issues, and imo, "issues" should be all that matters, not the experience factor since, technically all of the candidates are "inexperienced" since neither has ever held the job of "President" or "Vice President" before.

McCain sucks, I'll agree, but he sucks less than the alternative.

I don't feel he sucks, I just don't agree with the policies he's proposed, especially when it comes to abortion issues.

Working in Washington, in that never-never land of schemes, scandals, and corruption, is supposed to make you a better leader?

Not necessarily, but a person who's actually held some type of a political office, I feel should hold more weight than someone who's worked in the military, unless, that person did something that involved actually leading something or had a job pertaining to it. To my knowledge, and correct me if I'm wrong, McCain hasn't.

[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by MMM

I have never been so disgusted as I was today by the two ads the McCain campaign put out today.

YouTube - Education


Watch this ad. And know that Obama supported a bill that passed (with both Democratic support and Republican support) to teach kindergarten children how to tell an adult they have been touched inappropriately.

I feel that this is really important. I wish they would've had this type of stuff when I was a kid. It would've benefited me tremendously...but...the first time I was four and the second time I was six, I didn't understand it was wrong until I was much older and after the fact. I don't see anything wrong with teaching young kids about a bad touch and how you're supposed to go to someone you trust if it's being done to you since it's wrong.

[Sutiiven]

SSJup do you mind tellin me what it said? My dial up wont let me watch vids.

[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by Sutiiven

SSJup do you mind tellin me what it said? My dial up wont let me watch vids.

The ad is full of lies...typical. It's pretty much saying Obama's done nothing for education, 'cept for voting on Comprehensive Sex Education for Kindergartens. "Learning about sex before learning to read? Wrong on Education. Wrong for your family." That's pretty much how the ad summed it up.

FactCheck.org: Off Base on Sex Ed

This pretty much debunks what the ad is saying, so you can read about it there without much trouble. ^_^

[Sutiiven]

Wow most definitley not good for little kids that young they should be playing,Learning to read and get work with motor skills and more. That is truly sad.

[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by Sutiiven

Wow most definitley not good for little kids that young they should be playing,Learning to read and get work with motor skills and more. That is truly sad.

Teaching little kids about actual sex...I don't think is right, but teaching them about strangers and teaching them that it's not okay to be touched in a certain way or in certain areas, I see nothing wrong with that at all. Young children, imo, are the most vulnerable to it because they don't know it's wrong and usually end up blaming themselves, eventually if it happens more than once. That's not something you'd typically discuss with your child. We discuss the stranger thing, but not the "touching" thing and how it's wrong. As I pointed out, I wish I had been taught that when I was young. I'd probably be much better off now where relationships are concerned.

[Sutiiven]

I can agree with you a lot on that and i never had that in this small country town either.

[MMM]

He voted (not sponsored) a bill for age-appropriate sex education. "Age-appropriate" is the key term. For kindergarteners that was how to report adults that touch you where your bathing suit covers.

To twist that into teaching kids "what feels good" (as one Republican pundit put it yesterday) is perverse in every sense of the word.

We can talk about our candidates histories all we want (and we should) but we should also talk about how they handle themselves now, in 2008.

McCain is running the exact same campaign his previous Republican candidates did. I understand swift-boating and lighting fires you make the other guy put out to avoid talking about issues. It seems to work.

But don't tell me McCain stands for anything different then Bush, and don't tell me he and Palin are "agents of change".