400gb blu-ray disc works on current players

[Yuna7780]

Thinking of 400GB games... The idea makes me feel old and lighted headed.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y

What can I say about CDs? I don't see CDs going out of business anytime soon at all, let alone DVDs.
Digital distribution is only "the way" cos companies need a slicker way to combat piracy lol.
As for re-downloading, what you gonna do if ur hard drive fails, which it does a lot of the time? Got electronic receipts for that? Gonna burn a hard copy of your game just to make sure you don't have to spend hours re-downloading a game?

I dunno if you're aware but broadband isn't exactly becoming advanced either, with most companies only offering an allocated amount of bandwidth every month, unless you pay much more for your 'plan'.

Either way, it is not at all a thing of the future and will only be pushed as something akin to this by people who support things like DRM and so on. It is much more effective to encode a certain "download" with anti-piracy, than a CD or DVD.

I will always want a hard copy of my movies, games & music simply because I collect them.
Not everyone is like this but there is plenty of reason for Digital Distribution to be nothing more than 'another option'.

ps. the storage solution of the future is SOLID STATE TECHNOLOGY. Right now its too expensive though.

I would disagree with almost every statement you have made.

CDs may not be going anywhere, but CD sales are falling through through the floor. When was the last time you saw someone put a CD in a portable player?

Maybe things are different where I live, but almost no one I know buys physical CDs, everyone buys online for their ipods.

Harddrive failure? Like I said, the big three all keep a record of what I have downloaded, so if I do need to redownload I can do it for free. Game consoles aren't the same as computers, with 400 different parts from 400 different companies running 400 different programs and constantly barraged by viruses so HD failure doesn't happen as often. They are dedicated systems. In short, I have never experienced a console HD failure nor have I heard of anyone having an HD failure on a console game.

Broadband not becoming advanced? FiOS is now available where I live, and that is the biggest advancement in a decade.

I, too, like having physical copies of things I collect and own, but that thinking is becoming outdated.

[cridgit001]

On the HDD failure, that happens about as often as Bluescreens. People complain about them like they happen everyday but in reality it's pretty rare.

[SephirothVVC]

what kinda game needs that many GB's. isnt a DVD only 4? and then single layer blu-ray is 30GB right? i cant imagine how long it would take to make a game that needed that much space

[MMM]

Originally Posted by SephirothVVC

what kinda game needs that many GB's. isnt a DVD only 4? and then single layer blu-ray is 30GB right? i cant imagine how long it would take to make a game that needed that much space

They used to say that about games on CD. "We'll never need more than 700 megs for a game".

[Crani]

Originally Posted by XjapanFOREVER

400gb.... how many XBOX 360 discs (DVD's) is that?!

About 45 Dual layer DVDs, does are the ones they use on the XBOX 360

Originally Posted by Tyrien

Shouldn't be saying that won't be used either. Kojima managed to almost fill an entire 50GB blu-ray with all the cut scenes and HD audio. Even more space would allow for multiple language options on the same disc, as well as extra content like making of, and bonus features to grant a greater draw to buy the game. So it's meaningless information for 360, but opens up more possiblities for PS3 developers.

But Kojima didn't compress the HD audio, that's why he almost filled a whole 60GB blu-ray.

Originally Posted by XjapanFOREVER

also, with the increasing size of games, imagine the HDD you would have to have to store multiple games on it. A couple TB if you want a decent collection of PS3 games.

And, just like in the pass, HDD space will increase.

Originally Posted by SephirothVVC

what kinda game needs that many GB's. isnt a DVD only 4? and then single layer blu-ray is 30GB right? i cant imagine how long it would take to make a game that needed that much space

Dual layer DVDs are 9GB. And Dual layer BR are 60 GB.

[SephirothVVC]

Originally Posted by MMM

They used to say that about games on CD. "We'll never need more than 700 megs for a game".

what addition to games could they come up with that would need more space. they would have to either just make the game bigger or come up with something more complicated that required more space

how many games combined on one disc could fill that 400GB?

[Crani]

Originally Posted by SephirothVVC

what addition to games could they come up with that would need more space. they would have to either just make the game bigger or come up with something more complicated that required more space

Bigger Maps, better sound, more weapons or vehicles, more gaming mode, better graphics, you name it...

Originally Posted by SephirothVVC

how many games combined on one disc could fill that 400GB?

About 12 games with 30GB size.

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by MMM

I would disagree with almost every statement you have made.

Well you can disagree with it all but that doesn't mean i'm wrong in the slightest.

Lets discuss why eh?

Originally Posted by MMM

CDs may not be going anywhere, but CD sales are falling through through the floor. When was the last time you saw someone put a CD in a portable player?

Hmm, when did portable CD players suddenly become the only CD playing equipment? They aren't used too much anymore because there are mp3 players and smaller technologies available. Sales might have decreased but thats only cos there's more choice.
I saw someone today use CDs to play music and I do as well, everyday.

Originally Posted by MMM

Maybe things are different where I live, but almost no one I know buys physical CDs, everyone buys online for their ipods.

I think they just may well be. Is it a small town or a city?
Either way, if people are more likely to have iPods and the like, then yes you are more likely to get digitally distributed media. However if any serious music lover listens to music, they want the original CD, so they can listen to it at home or in the car on their phat sound system.
At the end of the day, it depends what technology is being pushed by companies. iPods are a fad and normal mp3 players have fast become just as popular. It doesn't mean it is something that is "popular" because people prefer it. It just means that is the technology available and Digital Distribution is what is available for it.
As I said before, Digital Media is a choice, not something that should be forced onto people by these fat cat companies.

Originally Posted by MMM

They are dedicated systems. In short, I have never experienced a console HD failure nor have I heard of anyone having an HD failure on a console game.

But I have seen it and so have a lot of others. In fact, just because a console is a dedicated system, doesn't mean its hard drive won't fail. The hard drive itself is not made by Sony or Microsoft and neither are a lot of components in a console. This means that the hard drive is just as likely to fail as in any PC because it has moving parts and the same MTBF (mean time between failure) rate. Being a dedicated system means nothing as far as the HD is concerned.
Anyway in my experience, the only console that hasn't had a problem with data loss is the Wii and that is because it uses Solid State Technology to store things.

Originally Posted by MMM

Broadband not becoming advanced? FiOS is now available where I live, and that is the biggest advancement in a decade.

I meant the companies offering broadband services are not advanced and are actually stepping backwards with products and services they offer.
Broadband can get advanced till its green in the face but if the services that companies offer are not viable, you will not have any kind of progress.

Originally Posted by MMM

I, too, like having physical copies of things I collect and own, but that thinking is becoming outdated.

According to who is it becoming outdated?

I and plenty of people will never think so.

Originally Posted by MMM

They used to say that about games on CD. "We'll never need more than 700 megs for a game".

He didn't outright say that it would never happen. Just that it would take time for it to.
"Experts" used to say a lot of things like that about PCs and consoles anyway. It'd be nice to think that they abstain from absolute dismissal about a certain subject these days.

[Tyrien]

Originally Posted by SephirothVVC

what kinda game needs that many GB's. isnt a DVD only 4? and then single layer blu-ray is 30GB right? i cant imagine how long it would take to make a game that needed that much space

Xbox/Wii DVDs = 6~8GB depending on the console. Those are dual layer DVDs. Single layer are not used for games. Asingle layer Blu-ray is 25GB, dual obviously 50. There have been games that have used most, if not all of the Blu-ray on PS3. Uncompressed audio takes up a lot of space.

and MMM, Hard disk failure happens more on consoles than you think. Probably one of the most common causes people need to send a PS3/360 in for repairs (outside of RROD for 360, of course.)