Self Inflicted Pain - your thoughts on it.

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by TheCrimson

lol. yeah, there are some idiot out there xD but you get the idea. what i meant was, find some music that's empowering, whether it be pop or whatever.

look up "Leah Andreone"

that woman's helped me so much during some dark times, her lyrics are encouraging and empowering. it's so out of my little genre of music, but i love her <3

I dunno about empowering but I listened to music that 'recognised the pain'.

In that respect, I think Smashing Pumpkins - Adore, is one of the most depressing albums ever. Its quite easy to relate to it on a lot of levels if you were ever in the same boat as Billy Corgan was.

Other than that, 'Gothic Metal' (or whatever u wanna call it) like Lacuna Coil, are also pretty good to me in the types of music to listen to. The lyrics might not be exactly what you always want but the music is nice and dark.

[TalnSG]

Originally Posted by NanteNa

As an add-up to the tattoo/piercing thing. People rarely do it for the pain - they do it for the result of the pain. Cutters don't cut for the scar, aye. They cut for the blood.

NanteNa, which type of "cutters" are you referring to? Many are doing itis specificaly for the scarification ( I know a few professionals in this field this line) and the majority of self-mutilation from depression is done for the intensity of the pain to which serves as a mental focusing sensation.

As for tattoos and piercing, even in the S&M community, its rarely done for the pain involved with getting either of them, though some truly enjoy that too. However the piercing is sometime done as a means for inflicting pain later. But NanteNa is right, the vast majority of piercings these days is purely for decorative reasons.

Just a clarification, please. When referring to sefl-inflicted pain, are we referring only to that which comes from mutilation, or other forms?

[TheCrimson]

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y

I dunno about empowering but I listened to music that 'recognised the pain'.

In that respect, I think Smashing Pumpkins - Adore, is one of the most depressing albums ever. Its quite easy to relate to it on a lot of levels if you were ever in the same boat as Billy Corgan was.

Other than that, 'Gothic Metal' (or whatever u wanna call it) like Lacuna Coil, are also pretty good to me in the types of music to listen to. The lyrics might not be exactly what you always want but the music is nice and dark.

yeah, Within Temptation is good Gothic Metal =)

I agree with the Smashing Pumpkins point =D

but yeah, i know what you mean.

music is good for a lot of things, isnt it? =P

Originally Posted by NanteNa

Arikado@ I really don't agree with that. Just because people out there feel somewhat worse than us it doesn't mean we're not allowed to feel sad because our problems seem to be NOTHING compared to what the third world is going through. Humans THINK a lot about everything. That can cause to depression and alike - whether your country is at war or not.

Pexster & Miyavifan@ Nobody is judging Kyo. If you hadn't noticed this is a SERIOUS discussion on self inflicted pain. One's fandom is not perfect. Neither is yours. It's okay that you stand up for him and whatever, but you guys make it sound like you're all married to the guy and have to stand before him defending his every move. Harming himself is exactly and obviously what he does - it's wrong to some extend, but just like you and me he's an individual and he's his own boss as long as he stays within the words of law. As so many others mentioned already, Rei didn't try to attack Kyo. She used him as an example since most of us here on JF have already seen him and can therefore relate to what she means. It's not personal.
And to you Miyavifan, if you cannot stay impartial just because it's about Kyo, you should be old enough to stay out of the convo.

EDIT; As an add-up to the tattoo/piercing thing. People rarely do it for the pain - they do it for the result of the pain. Cutters don't cut for the scar, aye. They cut for the blood.

P.E.R.F.E.C.T

perfect Nan.

and Pexster, your posts are painful to read. seriously. its like reading something a retard typed.

i'm just wanna clear all this for myself, i am not here to bag shit on Kyo, i just thought this issue could be something people might find interesting, and from what i know, there's a lot of teens in this forum, who may be doing shit like this or did it or whatever, or there maybe some adults who've done things like this and wanna give their opinion on it.

blah.

anyway. i dont think piercings and tattoos are included, but then again, there are people who go and get tatts and piercings because of the pain O_o

[NanteNa]

TalnSG@ Wops. Sorry, my bad. Being unclear here. I meant the ones cutting to see blood and to feel the pain. The cutters I know wish that cutting didn't leave scars at all. It reveals secrets.. you know.. So yeah. Am I making any sense? O_x''

Rei@ Thanks huns ^^

[KikiBunny23]

Originally Posted by TheCrimson

and Pexster, your posts are painful to read. seriously. its like reading something a retard typed.

Not to start anything, but it's stuff like calling people a retard that make them cut...well, depending on hwo they are. I take people using retard to heart because my niece is mentally retarded and it's just careless mistakes that can make someone start.

But either way...some people cut to feel alive/see the blood/ect...others do it for attention.

I don't get why a big discussion should be started on something that doesn't involve themselves. It's their bodies, if they want to waste it, let them...and sometimes, all they need is someone to show them that they ARE worth something...

But that's just my ten cents

[TheCrimson]

Originally Posted by KikiBunny23

Not to start anything, but it's stuff like calling people a retard that make them cut...well, depending on hwo they are. I take people using retard to heart because my niece is mentally retarded and it's just careless mistakes that can make someone start.

But either way...some people cut to feel alive/see the blood/ect...others do it for attention.

I don't get why a big discussion should be started on something that doesn't involve themselves. It's their bodies, if they want to waste it, let them...and sometimes, all they need is someone to show them that they ARE worth something...

But that's just my ten cents

-puts ten cents in piggy bank-

thanks.

fine. my bad for using the term retard. that's over now, all discussions back to self harm, not Kyo or anyone =D

i was just watching a shit movie called Vampire Clan... anyone seen it?
anyway. it was morbid. they cut their wrists and let their friends drink their blood.
based on a true story.
twisted. O_o

[KikiBunny23]

Originally Posted by TheCrimson

-puts ten cents in piggy bank-

thanks.

fine. my bad for using the term retard. that's over now, all discussions back to self harm, not Kyo or anyone =D

i was just watching a shit movie called Vampire Clan... anyone seen it?
anyway. it was morbid. they cut their wrists and let their friends drink their blood.
based on a true story.
twisted. O_o

Merry Christmas! ^-^ haha

That sounds really weird...-has urge to watch it now-im in a random mood

I would've hated to play those characters....they sound like emo vampires but they cant be emo because they're all blahhhh and stuff XD

[Miyavifan]

Originally Posted by orewasenshi

Look, you and Miyavifan say you know and shit but honestly you two keep repeating it over and over again.

Seriously, get the **** over it since nobody wants to hear you ***** about Kyo.

Jesus fucking christ.

EDIT: If I get banned for this, at least I got to say what I had to say.

I know it's basically over, though I only have to say, I wasn't repeating stuff over and over. and I sure as f*ck wasn't doing any such thing.*wipes hands of this*

@ Rei... that seems like a very weird movie.

(there is a no swearing rule... where at least it should be censored)

[TheCrimson]

it was. that movie was effed up.

Kikibunny, if you wanna see it, type in "Drew Fuller Vampire Clan" on youtube.

the movie is in 10 parts, posted by a Drew fangirl called "XXILUVDREWFULLER4EVAXX"

fangirls are the same, no matter what their fandom is xDDDD

yeah. twisted. its not the most exciting/best movie. but just odd.

[Salvanas]

Originally Posted by Miyavifan

I know it's basically over, though I only have to say, I wasn't repeating stuff over and over. and I sure as f*ck wasn't doing any such thing.*wipes hands of this*

@ Rei... that seems like a very weird movie.

(there is a no swearing rule... where at least it should be censored)

There's isn't a "no swearing" rule at all. It's highly encouraged. That's all. It's not a rule.

Get it right people.