Obama's Inaguration

[noodle]

Originally Posted by minimin

To have hope is a valid thing, now the word I think everyone else might be saying is Idealistic, I have no Idealistic views about Obama, I just hope he can change things for the better and pick U.S.A. back up. He actually does have plans I watch the news everyday and Im excited that he's working immediately trying to fix the mess the previous president got us into, now it won't be easy, but I think he's capable. and I havnt seen anyone call him "Messiah" thats a ridiculous word to call him or even imagine him. I don't get why everyone puts him down before he's even started??? that's what I wanna know.

I don't critisize Obama, I don't know his policies and I'm not directly affected by his actions, so I don't like or dislike him! All I've done is state what I've seen. I walk into a bar with a couple of friends and see FRENCH people cheering and shouting things along the lines of "Finally, we have someone that will change the world for us and make it a better place". I saw, okay, whatever, they're excited and they're proud to be part of something big and are cheering it on! Then I go home, watch the news, and I see people all over the world do these things. You get People in Japan wearing Obama T-shirts and cheering him on, and you get people in Thailand doing the same etc when they don't seem to celebrate nearly as much, or be concerned nearly as much with their own issues!

As for Messiah, I didn't say anyone used that word. I described how many people I've seen and spoken to have regarded him as!

I also hope Obama does a good Job! I hope every leader in the world does a good job for their country and people. I would hope nothing less for anyone. We are all humans and we all deserve stability and food on the table at the end of hard days work! I hope Obama does that for America. BUT I will not go ape over him simply because he's supposidly different to Bush!

[MMM]

Originally Posted by fluffy0000

This is a forum MMM not a sport with a scoreboard. The friendly exchange of ideas and observations with no score or points. If you prefer scores or points you might want to include ESPN sports package with your cable TV provider.

You have me completely at a loss. I simply asked what your point was. I asked because I don't know.

[minimin]

Originally Posted by noodle

I don't critisize Obama, I don't know his policies and I'm not directly affected by his actions, so I don't like or dislike him! All I've done is state what I've seen. I walk into a bar with a couple of friends and see FRENCH people cheering and shouting things along the lines of "Finally, we have someone that will change the world for us and make it a better place". I saw, okay, whatever, they're excited and they're proud to be part of something big and are cheering it on! Then I go home, watch the news, and I see people all over the world do these things. You get People in Japan wearing Obama T-shirts and cheering him on, and you get people in Thailand doing the same etc when they don't seem to celebrate nearly as much, or be concerned nearly as much with their own issues!

As for Messiah, I didn't say anyone used that word. I described how many people I've seen and spoken to have regarded him as!

I also hope Obama does a good Job! I hope every leader in the world does a good job for their country and people. I would hope nothing less for anyone. We are all humans and we all deserve stability and food on the table at the end of hard days work! I hope Obama does that for America. BUT I will not go ape over him simply because he's supposidly different to Bush!

Well well I see your point there, they do love Obama, Im not in love with Obama, but I sure as hell hope he keeps some of the promises he made, I know its not possible to keep all that you make during a campaign. I can understand the annoyance about that but I guess he fuels the hope train and people hope that he can help out in other places too and maybe he can, by fixing the U.S. relationship with other countries which was tarnished.

And I understand not everyone is enthusiastic about a new leader when he first joined the race for president I wasnt for him I thought "Waaaay to Idealistic" but then I heard policies and I said, he's actually better than most of the choices up there

I do respect your opinions though ^_^ as everyone says: "Opinions are like @ssholes, everyones got them" so I always listen.

P.S. At first I was too annoyed by the "Obama Love" then I said "whatever makes you happy" :P

[Sinestra]

I cant believe with as many intelligent people who are posting in here. What i was trying to say was completely and utterly missed i actually face palmed.

Sighsome of you people are the ones i cant stand to talk to in real life. All i ever freakin hear is negativity always negativity its like some people want the hard times to continue so they have bitch about.

Obama is a man he is mortal he is not a god and yes he will make mistakes will i be as hard on him as i was on Bush yes i will. WHY because as a voter, as a tax payer and citizen on this country it is my right to.

MY POINT once again is constructive criticisms is great, conversation with some debating is great. There is nothing wrong with having HOPE if you want to be depressed and bitch and moan about how nothing will change thats your right but don't drag others who might want to think optimistically into your depression.

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by fluffy0000

Sinestra not to pick a bone with your post but on the 20th Jan the Dow Jones Industrial dropped 332 pts with the major indexs down roughly 4 % according to the Assoc. Press Jan 21-09' On top of that US Bureau of Labor for unemployment figures for just the months of Oct.08' and Dec.08' were roughly 1.5 million US workers who had lost their jobs. A look at Dec.08 Broadcast of CSPAN with Dept. of Labor officials show that the current employment picture for the US economy outlook into 2012 is a 50/50 chance of either going positive or negitive with or without the 'TARP'. Translation the number of people present at the Obama InAug on Jan. 20 are significant but just as true the number of people when adjusted for 20 plus days of Jan. mean more US citizens lost their jobs than your numbers present at the Wash. mall -Btwn the months of Oct.08' Jan16-09'. By the time you read this post according to the US Dept of Labor Website the- insured unemployment claims for week ending Jan 16 will have increased from the previous week by 62,000 claims. This figure does not deal with people without unemployment insurance or those whose unemployment insurance has expired. Above fig. supplied US Dept. Labor Website on Labor Statistics posted Jan22-09'.

Fluffy what in the HELL did your post have to do with anything i stated in my previous post?

Btw because of my job i basically work in DC and see many figures and numbers from unemployment to how much damn water is being used in the district.

[noodle]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

I cant believe with as many intelligent people who are posting in here. What i was trying to say was completely and utterly missed i actually face palmed.

Sighsome of you people are the ones i cant stand to talk to in real life. All i ever freakin hear is negativity always negativity its like some people want the hard times to continue so they have bitch about.

Obama is a man he is mortal he is not a god and yes he will make mistakes will i be as hard on him as i was on Bush yes i will. WHY because as a voter, as a tax payer and citizen on this country it is my right to.

MY POINT once again is constructive criticisms is great, conversation with some debating is great. There is nothing wrong with having HOPE if you want to be depressed and bitch and moan about how nothing will change thats your right but don't drag others who might want to think optimistically into your depression.

Dude I think you need to relax a little... Maybe you can take your advice as well, just because you want to have HOPE it doesn't mean you have to drag other people along with you!

People stating they're "unhopefulness", isn't them trying to drag you down!

[minimin]

Personally, I think it's okay to have some hope things will get better or work out for the best I can see why so many are down at this moment, but isnt it okay to look forward and try be happy for what you got....not to sound to cliche Having alittle hope Obama can fix things in the US and other places is nice. Being Idealistic is what worries me, or being too Idealistic rather. Having alittle hope is okay.

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by noodle

Dude I think you need to relax a little... Maybe you can take your advice as well, just because you want to have HOPE it doesn't mean you have to drag other people along with you!

People stating they're "unhopefulness", isn't them trying to drag you down!

Im actually very relaxed it takes more than this stuff to get me going, Trying lunch with lobbyist's that will get you going.

I see a trend everyday that disturbs me and has me worried about the future of this country in general. That trend is well nothing will change and you are a food if you think something will just because the white house has a new chief, or one person cant make difference. These are the sort of people who in real life have no hope in anything. You could win the lottery they would still find a way to make you feel bad You could get married they would tell you constantly it would end in divorce ect ect.

Once again everyone has the right to feel anyway they want, but all it takes is for one person to have a little hope to ignite a spark. If any one of you want to tell the 85 year old women i met on Tues she is a fool for having hope then more power to you.

Now i respect everyone here for their opinion and stating them instead of one line BS. Im not picking on anyone nor am i upset with anyone I would just rather focus on being positive than negative it takes a lot of energy to be negative 24/7.

[jasminoodle]

haha he's a great guy!
i babysitted his kids once.

haha

i do hope he makes good changes to America, even though i dont live over there
i ddint watch the speech but i heard about it and i think that teh future is bright!

[fluffy0000]

Sorry Sinestra like the financial meltdown the 'free marketeers' like CitiGroup, Morgan Stanley and BofA and the likes of Alan Greenspan and Robert Rubin relied on the 'fundamentals of the market' these free marketeers did not bother with the 'negative'. The 'Storm of the Century'the ending of the artificial housing bubble that caused the financial market meltdown simply did not figure into their 'risk model' WSJ Sept08 NYTOct08' NPR08'. Having Obama surrounded by 'epic fail' Cabinet choices like Robert Gates Sec. Dept Defense and Timothy Geithner Treasury Nominee and Lawrence Summers Director of National Economic Council and Admiral Dennis Blair Director Nat. Intelligence is not about change it's about doing business as usuall.
The above choices include 'free marketeers' and the present
semi opaque 'TARP' and a admiral with his hands deep into the 1999 East Timor Invasion and counter insurgency which included massacre of civilians etc. If this is too negative for you your moral compass needs replacing.
Before hope there needs to be accountabilty.
If it makes you feel any better 'I' voted Dem.