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01-20-2009, 11:16 PM

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I'm a very un-racist person, which I guess it's not at all
a big deal to me.
You don't have to be racist to see the signifigance.


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I have the idea that he made history
just as much as the rest of the presidents have. I'm just
stubborn like that, I guess.
I'll be honest, I guess you aren't looking, because if you think this election is just the same as every one before it then you need to go back and look again.

Do yourself a favor and watch the news tonight. Read a newspaper tomorrow morning.

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It's not the only thing I'm griping about, it's just whenever
people talk about him, I don't hear anything about his politics
or decisions, etc, and that is what I would rather hear so I
can have more faith in him as our president, but if all I'm
hearing is "He's the 1st black president" then I don't know much
about him at all.
Again, start watching the news. Starting reading the newspapers. Start looking at news sites online. If you don't like the information that surrounds you, then surround yourself with different information.

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Also, I would like to mention :
This is only describing skin color, I'm thinking
more along the lines of ethnicity and heritage.

That formula is just how it works in America.
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01-20-2009, 11:17 PM

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It's not the only thing I'm griping about, it's just whenever
people talk about him, I don't hear anything about his politics
or decisions, etc, and that is what I would rather hear so I
can have more faith in him as our president, but if all I'm
hearing is "He's the 1st black president" then I don't know much
about him at all.

---I'm not sure if I can put it any way other than that.
I know! That's my whole point. It seems the media just cares about the History...not his views or anything

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I'm a very paranoid and suspicious person, and I don't trust
much, which is why I'm very skeptical. I would be no matter
who became president, it's just my personality.
Most of the presidents give me the creeps. I guess its the whole fact that we are puttin our trust in one single person and hope he(or she) doesn't ruin the whole country
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01-20-2009, 11:22 PM

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You don't have to be racist to see the signifigance.

I'll be honest, I guess you aren't looking, because if you think this election is just the same as every one before it then you need to go back and look again.

Do yourself a favor and watch the news tonight. Read a newspaper tomorrow morning.

Again, start watching the news. Starting reading the newspapers. Start looking at news sites online. If you don't like the information that surrounds you, then surround yourself with different information.


That formula is just how it works in America.
I don't really agree with any of this.
=/ I'm not sure if my opinions will change.
I'll be sure to research more about him,
although I'm avoiding any major news corp.
I'll try other websites (not the TV) and see
if I can find more discussions on something
other than what I've been hearing.

Also, I'm not saying the election is the same
as all the other ones, it does have significance
because of how many lives it's happening to
change and such, I just don't see that as a
person he is any different from the previous
presidents. (excluding skin color)

If that's how it works in America, then it's all wrong.
These kinds of topics stress me out to much.

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I know! That's my whole point. It seems the media just cares about the History...not his views or anything
Maybe it's a southern thing?

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Most of the presidents give me the creeps. I guess its the whole fact that we are puttin our trust in one single person and hope he(or she) doesn't ruin the whole country
The idea of having one person that everybody depends on isn't very comforting.
And yes, I know about the Supreme court and checks and balances and everything.
All they care about is what the president is going to do for our country next.
And if their goals are horrible and nobody actually focused on that in the first place,
then we're kind of screwed.

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His father was born in Kenya, and his mother is of English and Irish descent. He is Christian not Muslim.
Oooh I see. Idk where I got Muslim from 0_0

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"Rosa sat so Martin could walk; Martin walked so Obama could run; Obama is running so our children can fly."
That just shows how much hope Americans have now. He is a change and so we associate that with the idea that he will bring change.
Nice little quote, I get the first two, but how is Obama running going to make children fly?

I'm kind of curious, what kind of change is he bringing? I'm not so sure if my sources
are correct ( a magazine comparing and contrasting Obama and McCain)


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01-20-2009, 11:24 PM

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Just for the record, im not a supporter, im not a citizen so i couldn't vote, i just understand why they are making a big deal out of it. But from what I've seen you post, it seems as if your only gripe with him is he's "not all black" but i dunno. We can drop this Now that he is actually the president people will stop talking about the color of his skin and how he made history. Now they will talk about what he has done, or is doing with the country.
I wasn't born here ether, but I have lived in America for a few years now, but it concerns me since i'm here.

I think he has done a really good job, even before he was sworn in.


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01-20-2009, 11:26 PM

The history is significant - there's no way can ignore it. Kids, talk to your parents sometime about segregation.

If you listen, the media is actually talking about his policies just as much as the historical significance; maybe even more.

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Maybe it's a southern thing?
It's a southern thing to focus on the historical significance? Open your eyes for a moment. And when you get a chance, look up the headquarters of MSNBC and CNN


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01-20-2009, 11:28 PM

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Maybe it's a southern thing?



The idea of having one person that everybody depends on isn't very comforting.
And yes, I know about the Supreme court and checks and balances and everything.
All they care about is what the president is going to do for our country next.
And if their goals are horrible and nobody actually focused on that in the first place,
then we're kind of screwed.
Maybe it is...probably

and since we're stuck w/ them for the next four years (unless impeached which is unlikely) then, we're gonna go boom and soon enough, we'll lose all the things we've accomplished
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01-20-2009, 11:32 PM

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Also, I'm not saying the election is the same
as all the other ones, it does have significance
because of how many lives it's happening to
change and such, I just don't see that as a
person he is any different from the previous
presidents. (excluding skin color)

If that's how it works in America, then it's all wrong.
These kinds of topics stress me out to much.



Maybe it's a southern thing?



The idea of having one person that everybody depends on isn't very comforting.
And yes, I know about the Supreme court and checks and balances and everything.
All they care about is what the president is going to do for our country next.
And if their goals are horrible and nobody actually focused on that in the first place,
then we're kind of screwed.
One person can be the catalist of change, with his decitions, and his ability to inspire, he can move people to get out and do wat is needed, for good or for wrong,Mahatma Ghandy was one person, even Napoleon and Hitler were one person too.

NOTE: he is trying to unite the country in orther to clean the mess that was left for him.


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01-20-2009, 11:40 PM

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Nice little quote, I get the first two, but how is Obama running going to make children fly?

I'm kind of curious, what kind of change is he bringing? I'm not so sure if my sources
are correct ( a magazine comparing and contrasting Obama and McCain)
The quote is supposed to be a progression (standing to walking to running to flying) of inspirational people that were inspired by others to do great things.

I think you have to remember that the South has been dominantly Republican since the end of the Civil War. Obama= Democrat, so if you are reading it from a Southern magazine you might not be getting the whole story. I suggest going online and researching from major national news corporations.


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01-20-2009, 11:43 PM

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Maybe it is...probably

and since we're stuck w/ them for the next four years (unless impeached which is unlikely) then, we're gonna go boom and soon enough, we'll lose all the things we've accomplished
And what is it we are going to lose that we have accomplished?
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The quote is supposed to be a progression (standing to walking to running to flying) of inspirational people that were inspired by others to do great things.
Ooooh, okay I get it now. At first I was like *raises eyebrow*
and now it makes sense.

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I think you have to remember that the South has been dominantly Republican since the end of the Civil War. Obama= Democrat, so if you are reading it from a Southern magazine you might not be getting the whole story. I suggest going online and researching from major national news corporations.
That's probably true.
Though I'm not republican or democrat or reading media anymore.
If it was like religions, my family would be non-denominational. =D
We're leaning more towards anarchist, so that's probably why this
discussion has been drawn out for so long.

Anyways, I've spent enough time on this thread.
I've said all I needed to, and I will continue to read other respones,
but I will no longer post here, seeing it will only give me pimples.


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