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03-11-2009, 08:42 AM

Bottom line, you were in Tokyo. It's one of the biggest cities in the World... Anything can happen.


But that still doesn't change the fact that you've misinformed yourself through out this whole experience... Japan is a great place and is generally friendly to its tourists...

Don't forget that you didn't get to see any of Japan-- and basing a country off of a bad experience is shallow.

It's kind of sad... I can tell that for the rest of your life you'll always go around reminding people how evil you think Japan is-- when in reality it's a great place and a great tourist destination.


And by the way, you never acknowledged what Nyororin said...

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No foreigners signs are pretty much limited to the red light district, on those sort of businesses. Now unless you`re going to admit you spent all your time wandering in and out of soaplands looking for an easy lay, I am not going to believe you encountered any at all. Mugged in broad day light is an extreme stretch for even the worst red light areas though...
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03-11-2009, 08:46 AM

Why do I assume you might be lying?

Because we get a huge number of people who want to bash Japan left and right on here. Usually they start out by citing horrific racism, etc - and most of the time they`ve never even so much as been to Japan.

In fact, the most common type of non-advertising spam we get on this board is from people who dislike Japan for some reason or another (not personal experience) who come on here to talk about how awful the country is because they saw a youtube video with a bunch of soapland and hostess clubs posting no foreigner signs.

But your message goes even a step above that and accuses everyone in Japan of giving you nasty looks, which just doesn`t happen... Unless there was a GOOD reason for it - like walking around with one of those "looking for a Japanese girlfriend" shirts or acting like a complete and total idiot...

So I believe that either your story is a fabrication like countless others - or there is a lot you`re not telling us.


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03-11-2009, 09:20 AM

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Bottom line, you were in Tokyo. It's one of the biggest cities in the World... Anything can happen.


But that still doesn't change the fact that you've misinformed yourself through out this whole experience... Japan is a great place and is generally friendly to its tourists...

Don't forget that you didn't get to see any of Japan-- and basing a country off of a bad experience is shallow.

It's kind of sad... I can tell that for the rest of your life you'll always go around reminding people how evil you think Japan is-- when in reality it's a great place and a great tourist destination.




1) i was not in the red light district but i still did see anti-foreigner signs.

2) If he doesnt believe that i was mugged in broad daylight well....not much i can say that wouldnt lead to a "did not!! did too!!! did not!!! did too!!!" argument.

Now for what you said...

1) I base my views on something based on my own experiences with it....EVERYONE DOES THAT. Its like....If you went to japan and had a good time there good for you....im not going to attack you because you liked japan.

2) Of course i am going to bring up my bad experience with other people if the subject comes up. Its like...suppose you went to a restaurant and got horrible service and the food was terrible. From that moment on if anyone brought up said restaurant you are going to talk about your bad experience there. Its human nature.....im sure theres a certain business of some sort that if someone brings up it is going to instantly remind you of your bad experience with said business and you always tell people about your bad experience with it if someone does brings it up. Again its normal for people to talk about their bad experiences.... Is this how you treat everyone who reports having a bad experience in japan?

Anyways this is going to be my last post here. No point in dwelling on my bad experience and since everyone here ether thinks i randomly decided to come here and make this whole story up or thinks im horrible for sharing my experience in japan....i see no reason to continue posting here.
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03-11-2009, 09:21 AM

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03-11-2009, 09:23 AM

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Anyways this is going to be my last post here. No point in dwelling on my bad experience and since everyone here ether thinks i randomly decided to come here and make this whole story up or thinks im horrible for sharing my experience in japan....i see no reason to continue posting here.
Honestly, I don't think it should be your last post... Hang around and inform yourself.
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03-11-2009, 01:03 PM

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like walking around with one of those "looking for a Japanese girlfriend" shirts.
Oh god, I've seen those shirts far too often. It doesn't help much that they actually sell those in tourist shops here IN JAPAN.


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03-11-2009, 01:27 PM

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Nobody here is trying to appease me...in fact everyone here is claiming my story is a complete work of fiction.

Also i could have "gotten over" my mugging and enjoyed japan but i lost most of my money in said mugging.
If you really were mugged, that is an awful and mind-changing experience. You spent the rest of your vacation in the hotel room...not really "experiencing" Japan, right. One might even think the entire country of Japan was racist after being mugged by one nut.

I have lived in Japan for a few years, and am actually in Japan at the moment, and nothing of what you says jibes with any experience I have had. I am wondering why this this thread hasn't been closed yet, actually. It smells of baloney and racism.

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1) i was not in the red light district but i still did see anti-foreigner signs.
That's simply bulls**t. It isn't true. I have spent months in Tokyo and have NEVER seen a no-foreigner sign.
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2) If he doesnt believe that i was mugged in broad daylight well....not much i can say that wouldnt lead to a "did not!! did too!!! did not!!! did too!!!" argument.

White people are not the targets of crimes by Japanese muggers. Yakuza don't even mess with foreigners.


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Anyways this is going to be my last post here. No point in dwelling on my bad experience and since everyone here ether thinks i randomly decided to come here and make this whole story up or thinks im horrible for sharing my experience in japan....i see no reason to continue posting here.
I don't think either. I know you are making it up. I don't know why, but you are.

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03-11-2009, 02:01 PM

Wow, I can’t believe people are so defensive for Japan… Who would’ve known, Tenchu might actually be right and this forum might actually be full of “Japanophiles making excuses for Japan.”

People have been mugged in police stations before, yet everyone seems to have a problem with accepting that someone got mugged in Japan. Lol… wow! Kinda pathetic to be honest! The Japanese people I know never defend Japan the way you guys are. They happily admit that there is crime in Japan, that Japan isn’t perfect, that Japan should work on its international relations, that there are “only Japanese” signs in many places, not only strip bars etc…

Anyway, I’m not going to dismiss this persons experience because it doesn’t sound as unlikely as everyone is saying. That doesn’t however mean he’s giving me a negative impression of Japan. To be honest, the people defending Japan with everything are the ones making Japan seem fishy to me. There is always advice to teens saying you shouldn’t think Japan is some wonderland, but to be honest, you guys are trying to portray Japan just as that…
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03-11-2009, 02:20 PM

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Wow, I can’t believe people are so defensive for Japan… Who would’ve known, Tenchu might actually be right and this forum might actually be full of “Japanophiles making excuses for Japan.”

People have been mugged in police stations before, yet everyone seems to have a problem with accepting that someone got mugged in Japan. Lol… wow! Kinda pathetic to be honest! The Japanese people I know never defend Japan the way you guys are. They happily admit that there is crime in Japan, that Japan isn’t perfect, that Japan should work on its international relations, that there are “only Japanese” signs in many places, not only strip bars etc…

Anyway, I’m not going to dismiss this persons experience because it doesn’t sound as unlikely as everyone is saying. That doesn’t however mean he’s giving me a negative impression of Japan. To be honest, the people defending Japan with everything are the ones making Japan seem fishy to me. There is always advice to teens saying you shouldn’t think Japan is some wonderland, but to be honest, you guys are trying to portray Japan just as that…
Noodle, the OP's original post can't be true. He might have been mugged in broad daylight at knifepoint in Tokyo...I am sure that happens...but it is a rare event for that to happen, especially to a white foreigner. But it happens.

What isn't true is the dirty looks and tons of no foreigner signs on shops. This is TOKYO...one of the most international cities in the world. It's simply not true. It's not about "defending Japan" or being a "Japanophile"...it's about telling the truth. And biggest mistake isn't telling the truth.
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03-11-2009, 02:22 PM

You were unlucky. What happened to you in Japan could happen to you in ANY city around the world. Most Japanese people aren't racist. They're just not used to foreigners like Americans are. America is a melting pot. We're used to diversity and they aren't. They were probably staring at you because you're white but maybe you were imagining the staring rudely part because in our culture staring itself is rude? About Japanese police- I have heard on multiple occasions Japanese people criticizing their own police. Apparently they're a big problem in Japan. But you have to do your research before you go to another country. Every country in the world has its bad side and you should be prepared so you can avoid it and enjoy yourself. THAT was your mistake. Not going to Japan, but going to Japan unprepared.
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