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03-30-2009, 10:13 PM

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I think a well placed carrier would do just as well as any army base. It's not like China or whoever is going to sneak into Japan and blow the crap out of it like the Japanese did to Pearl Habor(I don't mean to make light of that). It seems more paranoia than anything that is keeping the base there.
The Chinese military officials have made frequent liaisons with the Japanese SDF approximately a decade ago with positive results.

China is not in a position to conduct a large conventional warfare against its neighbors today.

I don't know why China is always the blame when most of the people in the West don't know anything much about China.

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03-30-2009, 10:29 PM

No one is constantly blaming China here, komitsuki. I am pretty certain China does pose a serious threat to Japan. Of course that China will not side North Korea in case it will decide to attack South Korea, Japan or the US - but it still is a threat on its own.

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03-30-2009, 10:35 PM

What I do know about China, I'm not a big fan of. Such as the public execution of a woman. Not to mention the whole blocking of web sites during the Olympics and the current block of Youtube.
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03-30-2009, 10:47 PM

It seems that the Japanese have yet to express true sorrow for their wartime wrongs. I don't think that in any Japanese history class, Japan's war crimes are ever mentioned. Japan's relations with China and South Korea became strained further when in 2005, the PM visited Yasukuni Shrine, and a history textbook was released which glossed over Japan's war crimes, including the "Rape of Nanjing".
I think every Japanese citizen MUST visit Nanjing at least once in their lifetime to learn about the horrible actions their military commited against Nanjing's civilians in 1937. You can NEVER try to whitewash history, no matter how shameful it is. At least 300,000 Chinese were raped and murdered during the massacre; some Japanese historians say it was a lot less, others even denied it happened. And let's face it; Nazi Germany murdered over 6 million Jews, the Empire of Japan murdered 10 million Chinese. Germany punished their own war criminals, America punished Japan's. Germany have officially apologised and payed compensation for their atrocities, Japan never has. In the German educational system, all students MUST learn about Nazi war crimes and visit a concentration camp at least once; the Japanese system hardly (if ever) does anything like that. Germany and Israel have good relations with each other, Japan and China (as well as North AND South Korea) don't really. Jews and Israelis generally like Germans today, many Chinese (and Koreans) still hate Japanese people. JAPAN, WAKE THE FUCK UP AND ADMIT YOUR GUILT!!!
Apart from that though, I still love Japan. The people are one of the nicest and friendliest I've ever met, and their exports (technology and food etc.) are awesome. I just wish that the Japanese knew the truth about what happened in Nanjing...


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No one is constantly blaming China here, komitsuki.
Sorry, then why is your tone very much about blaming China?

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I am pretty certain China does pose a serious threat to Japan.
Then why did the Chinese military conducted numerous liaisons with the Japanese SDF without expressing any serious offenses?

Taiwan turned pro-Beijing thanks to President Ma. Can't complain about that.

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Of course that China will not side North Korea in case it will decide to attack South Korea, Japan or the US - but it still is a threat on its own.
South Korea and Japan are the VIP investors for the Chinese economy. Thinking that China is a regional threat is nonsense.
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What I do know about China, I'm not a big fan of. Such as the public execution of a woman. Not to mention the whole blocking of web sites during the Olympics and the current block of Youtube.
China is just slowly improving. You don't want a radical change in the society or else it will become a disaster.
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No one is constantly blaming China here, komitsuki. I am pretty certain China does pose a serious threat to Japan. Of course that China will not side North Korea in case it will decide to attack South Korea, Japan or the US - but it still is a threat on its own.
WTF? I don't see China as a threat to Japan. China don't hate Japan that much. Probably North Korea is the biggest threat to Japan, but it's highly unlikely war will happen again in Japan.


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03-30-2009, 10:52 PM

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China is just slowly improving. You don't want a radical change in the society or else it will become a disaster.
I just want their government to be honest with their people and tell them what is really going on. Not "sheltering" them.

@Hennaz, Japan will probably never do that because then the country as a whole would have to "loose face" in order to do that.

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03-30-2009, 10:55 PM

I think a some of you are operating under misguided notions. It feels like you want to hold the Japanese to some higher shame for their history then we expect of other nations and cultures. Why should every Japanese citizen have his nose rubbed in the shame of his ancestors when we certainly don't expect that of American, English, Italian, German, Greek, Russian, etc. citizen.

What expression of wartime sorrows are you expecting? At what poing are we allowed to pull ourselves from the mud and move forward?
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03-30-2009, 10:56 PM

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I just want their government to be honest with their people and tell them what is really going on. Not "sheltering" them.
You do know that China is the biggest users of proxy softwares in the world, right?

I see South Korea as a huger threat to its people than China. Just look at the media and internet policies made by "2mb" and his cronies for example.

Thank goodness that Japan isn't doing this.
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