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04-17-2009, 08:14 PM
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1. more cultures 2.floride in water 3.freedoms of speech 4.More rights than other countries 5. GOOD DENTIST (lol jk) 6.ability of moving up in socio economic status (easier) and of course i qkno we have issues with economy, but thats a deal you make when u invest money into something 
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04-17-2009, 08:59 PM
In Norway, school is shit from 1-10th grade (grunnskole) Especially out in the districts. My dad used to teacher outside the city in the rural areas, with the ageing population of teachers, and ass f**ked "kommuner" (small states) run by a dynasty of idiots. Yes a dynasty, the top leaders hierd their family members without education, instead of educated people. This was and is still the situation and a problem today.
Once you go to high school, you have almost complete control of your own education. These schools are very well founded and run, since they are run by the "fylke" (the ward all these small states belong to) Even if the school after grunnskolen is really good, education is very laid back. We all are very aware that we will do just fine without education, if we can't find jobs, the government will find you one, if you don't have enough money to make the ends meet, the government will provide you with money, if you later in life whish an education, they will help you with it. They even pay people to go to school as long as your guardians don't have a really solid income. They give free books and laptops to everyone, except for the first graders at high school, they only receive free laptops..too bad i was not around when this happened 
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04-17-2009, 09:24 PM
 Here in the states, were I live the education is crap, my school acts as if its so poor, but we can surely spend money on football, good forgive if we dont buy the new uniforms (the most expesive one, no less) but we can skip on new textbooks, my school has so little textbooks that people steal others, it insane, so yeah from my point of view the education system sucks
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04-17-2009, 10:00 PM
What do I think of my education system? Well, I believe it needs SERIOUS overhauling. Teachers always complain about the students being unruly, yelling at us daily and giving out referrals and detentions left and right. And plus, the work is just a test of following directions, rarely helping to further "teach" us about the subject.
Schooling in Milwaukee English class: These classes only help us with writing essays. I have yet to see/hear of/have a class that teaches us how to write full-blown books and such, not just a couple pages of writing. I started writing at least over two and a half years ago, and I've learned more writing technique on my own than I did in class. Doesn't that sound screwed up to you? Math class: It just teaches us how to add, divide, subtract, and multiply. I don't really care about math so I don't look too deep into the matter. But isn't math more than just those four factors? Geography class: So far I've only learned about the negatives and economies of countries, nothing deep on their ways of life. If it does go in on their way of life, than it covers how they lived about five hundred years ago. Never how they are currently. That's REALLY bad for my writer's research, because I plan on writing stories that take place in several different countries, at least one per continent. Gym class: Meh. Don't care about it because I'm not a physical person. Swimming class: I hate it. Nearly drowned twice, and the teacher I had was supposedly "the best in Wisconsin". Pfft. At least after the second near-death incident I got an A for the course. History: Rarely anything new to learn about. We only cover the first two World Wars, Civil War, Martin Luther King...Is that ALL that happened involving America? Art: Haven't had it since 8th, but if art in high school is exactly like it was back then, then I don't want any part of it. For me it was drawing pictures the way the teacher wants it or else you get a bad grade, regardless of how bad an artist you are. No help, no exceptions. I wonder how I passed that class, but I'm glad I did. Oh, and I still suck at drawing. What a big help all those years of art class in elementary through middle school were. Foreign languages: All my school has is Spanish, but I've learned some German from my Composition (?) teacher because she plans on moving to Germany. Good for me, I might use it, but only Spanish? I understand that because my school is Hispanic dominated, but come on! The closest they have to anything outside of Spanish was that German I was lucky to get and "Spanish for Spanish Speakers". Spanish for Spanish Speakers? To sum it all up, the "educational" system where I live merely teaches us how to be robots, punishing us if we don't come up to expectation. I thought school was supposed to be about preparing us for what's to come in life, but apparently here it's about teaching us obedience. I will give the education system some credit, though. I've learned a few things I probably wouldn't regularly know (right now anyways), like that little bit of Spanish and German I've been taught, and a few tricks to use on my computer when I'm typing on Word, but none that I'll really be using, and some I can't use even if I wanted to, because I was that stuff was taught to me on Microsoft Office 2003. Horribly outdated for technology, is it not? And that's the educational system I've observed. 
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04-17-2009, 11:02 PM
I've written several essays on various topics relating to the quality of America's educational systems.
Yes, systemS. Plural. Due to the structure of the constitution, education, despite measures like No Child Left Behind, is essentially a state run endeavor. This means fifty sets of standards, fifty philosophies, fifty curriculums, and a completely uneven level of education. The absolutely best thing to happen to the American system would be for it to be federalised. I am well aware that those on the right of the political spectrum would balk at my audacity to "socialise" yet another aspect of American life, but really, at this point we simply don't have a choice. We have such a hodge podge system now, with already increasing interference from the federal government (under Republicans, no less!) that I simply don't see how we can guarantee and equal level of education to all citizens. I have, personally, experienced three different types of schools in America: Private schools Inner City schools Large Tax Base Suburban schools The private school system is something to be addressed elsewhere, although I will say I found my private school periods to have exceeded expectations now that as I teacher I can look back at them- of course, they were also very expensive. Briefly, in junior high school, I left my private school to attempt to go to a public school. My junior high school was an inner city school in a fairly large city. As such, most students were poor, minorities, badly taken care of. The tax base of the area was very low, and since schools rely on the tax base of their district, not really the state as a whole, we had awful facilities (the school was falling apart in some places), the textbooks were badly out of date. I was there in... hmm... 1995 or 1996... and I think recalling that the history textbook, for example, still stated that the USSR existed (weakened and ready to fall, perhaps, but not yet gone). The library was a joke. Most of the books from the 1970s. Then I got shoved in a locker (that I was far too large to actually fit into, so you can imagine the bruises and cuts), picked up and dropped on my chin (I still have the scar), and a friend of mine got stabbed in the front parking lot as I watched. My mother sent me right back into private school, as you can imagine. However, we moved to the suburb of a different city, and my parents had always had very good jobs. This suburb was, and still is, exceedingly wealthy. People owned large lots with McMansions on them. Some even owned ranches. When I started high school, the school was brand new, and they were adding wings. Before I graduated one wing had become six, and included a computer lab in every wing on every floor and a complete radio and TV station full of Premiere and Final Cut pro editing stations and Canon DV cameras that cost $5000 each. Everyone had a car, and the rich kids drove BMWs or Mercedes. One of my good friends (not all the rich kids were stuck up, it wasn't like Mean Girls all the time or anything), Lauren had a white Mercedes. As you can imagine, the tax base was large, there were only three or four people of color in the entire school (odd to me, since even my private schools always had a large mix, I think my mother, who had lived in the civil rights era and remembers when her school was integrated was more shocked than I was), there was hardly any violence, and we got the best of everything. Always. I attained an outstanding education at that public high school. The fact that these two schools are in the same region, only about 200 miles apart from each other, and in the same state, says much more about the fractured state of a public education in America than any general overview of how the system works ever could.
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04-20-2009, 02:26 PM
Educational System in Evanston (North of Chicago)
The funny thing is chicago has really bad schooling, not the teachers, but the money. Schools close left and right, gang violence and there is not enough money. My schooling was in the suburbs. Evanston is right next to chicago and everything is way better here. We can afford updated text, computers etc. The teaching here is good even though I'm not the best student, and it helps you prepare. I'm not saying my school is the best because a lot of high schools in my area are doing fairly well. but obviously we have the same issues of bullying and shit @ schools. it happens
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04-20-2009, 02:42 PM
I don't think america is "DUMBING" down...
I started learning algebra in 5th grade...basics... and now I hear my elementary school has lowered the grade from when students learn it to 3rd or 4th. (And I stil suck at math.) I think in America, it's more of the state and city district rather than the country as a whole. Californian standards are different from Tennessee, and so on. Hell, I went to Clovis schools until the middle of Freshmen year in high school, then transfered to a Fresno school, and things were SEVERELY different. Requirements, how the classes worked, everything. >_> My school is considered by many Clovis schools as "Ghetto", because Fresno schools DO have a bad rap. But we're small. And we're GOOD. If our test scores raise once more for the 4th time...we would be considered a national distinguished school, which many are, but its still a good thing. Yeah, we have gang problems. Yeah, our counselors screw us over sometimes. But we know our shizzle. And at least half of the teachers do too. (Which was more than I could say for the Clovis District High School I attended then. LOL)
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04-20-2009, 02:52 PM
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For colleges parents send their children abroad for better education than our institutions over here, its that bad. I even had a professor in economics who bragged to us that he would never allow his kids school where he teaches...We wanted to report him for the statement but we knew better than to do that.
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04-20-2009, 03:31 PM
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I like The Netherlands but it's just too small for me... too little! And the culture is a bit like America's, although we do have a bit of culture left here. As for Türkiye, I love every aspect of my motherland. The education and economy is going up so that is a good thing. Crime rates are dropping and jobless people are given more opportunities. Since 2000, Türkiye has been improving a lot.
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