JapanForum.com  


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
(#61 (permalink))
Old
Sangetsu's Avatar
Sangetsu (Offline)
Busier Than Shinjuku Station
 
Posts: 1,346
Join Date: May 2008
Location: 東京都
05-07-2009, 01:58 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by alanX View Post
Weed is totally safe, deffinately more safe than anyother addiction.

Alcohol: Beat your wife then drive off into a semi truck killing you and 3 others.
Tobacco: Lung cancer, tooth decay, throat damage, etc.
Weed: You'll want to take your wife and kids to Dairy Queen.
Or, you can develop an incurable mental condition which will prevent your ever having a normal life. If you smoke pot in your teens, you are 300% more likely to develop schizophrenia than someone who didn't. If you are one of the 25% of people who carry the gene related to schizophrenia, you are 1000% more likely to develop the disease if you smoke pot. As much as 80% of new schizophrenia cases are thought to be triggered by marijuana use.

Marijuana users are 400% more likely to commit suicide than those who don't use it, as well as being 500% more likely to develop clinical depression.

Do you still think it's "completely safe"?

Last edited by Sangetsu : 05-07-2009 at 02:16 AM.
(#62 (permalink))
Old
SephirothVVC's Avatar
SephirothVVC (Offline)
Death Is The Cure
 
Posts: 541
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Planet Earth
Send a message via MSN to SephirothVVC Send a message via Skype™ to SephirothVVC
05-07-2009, 02:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sangetsu View Post
Marijuana users are 400% more likely to commit suicide
legalize it.....now O.O haha jk jk



"I despise practically everything about human life, which does limit one's weekend activities."
(#63 (permalink))
Old
Sangetsu's Avatar
Sangetsu (Offline)
Busier Than Shinjuku Station
 
Posts: 1,346
Join Date: May 2008
Location: 東京都
05-07-2009, 02:09 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMM View Post
The success of drug decriminalization in Portugal - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

In 2001, Portugal became the only EU-member state to decriminalize drugs, a distinction which continues through to the present.

Drugs: To Legalize or Not - WSJ.com

A most impressive experiment has been underway in Portugal since 2001, when that country decriminalized the possession and personal use of all psychotropic drugs. According to a study just published by the Cato Institute, "judged by virtually every metric," the Portuguese decriminalization "has been a resounding success."

5 Years After: Portugal's Drug Decriminalization Policy Shows Positive Results: Scientific American

In the face of a growing number of deaths and cases of HIV linked to drug abuse, the Portuguese government in 2001 tried a new tack to get a handle on the problem—it decriminalized the use and possession of heroin, cocaine, marijuana, LSD and other illicit street drugs.
But drugs have not been legalized in Portugal, merely decriminalized. "Decriminalized" does not mean "legal". Possess any amount of drugs in Portugal, and you are subject to arrest. If you are caught with drugs, they will be taken away from you, and you will be arrested until you are interviewed by a commissioner. You will be fined, you will be required to perform whatever service you are sentenced to. You will also be required to see a drug abuse counselor, and receive addiction treatment if it is thought necessary.

Please to not tell people that drugs are legal in Portugal when they aren't.
(#64 (permalink))
Old
Kayci's Avatar
Kayci (Offline)
The odd Gaijin :3
 
Posts: 439
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: California
Send a message via MSN to Kayci
05-07-2009, 02:32 AM

I don't think it should be legalized.
I really don't.
Even though, on the flip side, I do realize that usage may be very likely to go down now the "risk" is somewhat lower, or whatever reason.

But I couldn't agree with it morally or ethically.


Coffee prevents me from killing you.
(#65 (permalink))
Old
ozkai's Avatar
ozkai (Offline)
X Kyoto
 
Posts: 1,474
Join Date: Apr 2009
05-07-2009, 02:37 AM

If they keep cigarettes and alcohol legal, legalize green as how much better or worse could it possibly be.


Cheers - Oz
(#66 (permalink))
Old
alanX's Avatar
alanX (Offline)
The Psychedelic Traveler
 
Posts: 1,114
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: An arrogant nation.
Send a message via Skype™ to alanX
05-07-2009, 02:40 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sangetsu View Post
Or, you can develop an incurable mental condition which will prevent your ever having a normal life. If you smoke pot in your teens, you are 300% more likely to develop schizophrenia than someone who didn't. If you are one of the 25% of people who carry the gene related to schizophrenia, you are 1000% more likely to develop the disease if you smoke pot. As much as 80% of new schizophrenia cases are thought to be triggered by marijuana use.

Marijuana users are 400% more likely to commit suicide than those who don't use it, as well as being 500% more likely to develop clinical depression.

Do you still think it's "completely safe"?
Have you ever walked outside of your mother's basement? I guarantee you have never stepped foot inside a public school. And just because I'm curious of where you got this BS from, please send me a link.

I know AT LEAST 50 people JUST AT MY PUBLIC SCHOOL who have smoked marijuana for at least 5 years. Do any of them have schizophrenia? Obviously not.

Please provide me with your resources. I am literally lolling at you right now.


猿も木から落ちる
(#67 (permalink))
Old
Kayci's Avatar
Kayci (Offline)
The odd Gaijin :3
 
Posts: 439
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: California
Send a message via MSN to Kayci
05-07-2009, 02:44 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by alanX View Post
Have you ever walked outside of your mother's basement? I guarantee you have never stepped foot inside a public school. And just because I'm curious of where you got this BS from, please send me a link.

I know AT LEAST 50 people JUST AT MY PUBLIC SCHOOL who have smoked marijuana for at least 5 years. Do any of them have schizophrenia? Obviously not.

Please provide me with your resources. I am literally lolling at you right now.
Well, Marijuana is like any drug; Russian Roulette. Believe me, I've asked every doctor/science teacher I know - and medicine IS a family business of sorts. Marijuana CAN and WILL have harmful affects, it just may take longer than it does for other people. Same with tobacco; Some people have used it for a short time and got empyzemia, and others, like my mother, are getting the negative results slowly. (Although, then again, they could be there without our knowledge- she refuses to go to the doctor)
I know of people who seem fine now on Marijuana, but others, like my brother, who have negative reactions to it.
You just can't tell who and when it will come to affect. Your friends may be lucky now, but don't always assume so.


Coffee prevents me from killing you.
(#68 (permalink))
Old
Debi's Avatar
Debi (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 189
Join Date: Apr 2009
05-07-2009, 02:58 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by alanX View Post
Have you ever walked outside of your mother's basement? I guarantee you have never stepped foot inside a public school. And just because I'm curious of where you got this BS from, please send me a link.

I know AT LEAST 50 people JUST AT MY PUBLIC SCHOOL who have smoked marijuana for at least 5 years. Do any of them have schizophrenia? Obviously not.

Please provide me with your resources. I am literally lolling at you right now.
Hahaha, is it what you call proofs ? Now it's you who should be laughed at.

"I know no one that ever suffered from schizo at my school so therefore it can't happen"

What a sham.

It's like if I said "I know over 100 persons who smoke cigarettes for many years and no one ever suffered from lungs cancer so it can't happen"

That is just stupid thing to say.

Smoking marijuana raise risk of psychosis and schizophrenia. It is clinically proved. Maybe you think you know better than scientists ?

If you want sources just google it, it's easy and I won't do it for you.


Gimme a stick and I'll make a masterpiece out of it, go figure.

Last edited by Debi : 05-07-2009 at 03:04 AM.
(#69 (permalink))
Old
ozkai's Avatar
ozkai (Offline)
X Kyoto
 
Posts: 1,474
Join Date: Apr 2009
05-07-2009, 03:05 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by alanX View Post

I know AT LEAST 50 people JUST AT MY PUBLIC SCHOOL who have smoked marijuana for at least 5 years. Do any of them have schizophrenia? Obviously not.

Please provide me with your resources. I am literally lolling at you right now.
It's an age thing.

I would say at such a young age, the risks are lower and increase with the years.


Cheers - Oz
(#70 (permalink))
Old
alanX's Avatar
alanX (Offline)
The Psychedelic Traveler
 
Posts: 1,114
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: An arrogant nation.
Send a message via Skype™ to alanX
05-07-2009, 03:07 AM

I'm not saying weed in healthy, by any means. However, I'm sticking to "weed is not unhealthy."

Knowing 50 people just in my high school who use marijuana almost on a daily basis, and having used it myself from time to time, and still having no signs or symptoms of schizophrenia whatsoever, none of us, is not proof to anyone except myself.

Also: It's not really that big a deal. You light one up, you get high, then it's done. Who cares? Get over it. I will probably be made legal sometime in the future, just accept it. Like ciggies. They're worse than weed, and they are legal. And unlike weed, cigarettes have an actually death count. Marijuana's is: 0.


猿も木から落ちる

Last edited by alanX : 05-07-2009 at 03:09 AM.
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright 2003-2006 Virtual Japan.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6