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05-07-2009, 07:23 PM

Im Baffled. I don't know.....for me it's kinda both. each category (Fate/Choice) deals with life. Fate is at the end of life meaning Death. Choice is 'how' you die and live your life. I don't really know how to put this good in words. I have been bothered by this..at first I thought 'I pick Fate' but then I realized what is my reason and I didn't really have one. And then I switched to Choice, but I came out with the same outcome. So I just went along with Both.......but that isn't my final answer.....

And I got this question in class.....involving a poem...if you guys wanna read it I will post it.*off subject...kinda*


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05-07-2009, 07:24 PM

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Wouldn't that be "tempting fate"?
ive never heard that before....it doesnt make much sense to me



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ive never heard that before....it doesnt make much sense to me
Oops, sorry, I thought it was a saying -- someone who does something rash is said to be "tempting fate." I'll have to try to remember to look that up.

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Im Baffled. I don't know.....for me it's kinda both. each category (Fate/Choice) deals with life. Fate is at the end of life meaning Death. Choice is 'how' you die and live your life. I don't really know how to put this good in words. I have been bothered by this..at first I thought 'I pick Fate' but then I realized what is my reason and I didn't really have one. And then I switched to Choice, but I came out with the same outcome. So I just went along with Both.......but that isn't my final answer.....

And I got this question in class.....involving a poem...if you guys wanna read it I will post it.*off subject...kinda*
I definitely see your point. Some things are just inevitable. But for me, it's the things that I do have the power to influence that really matter -- the choices. So much of life is dictated by choices made along the way . . . .

I would love to read the poem.
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Oops, sorry, I thought it was a saying -- someone who does something rash is said to be "tempting fate." I'll have to try to remember to look that up.

I definitely see your point. Some things are just inevitable. But for me, it's the things that I do have the power to influence that really matter -- the choices. So much of life is dictated by choices made along the way . . . .

I would love to read the poem.
The Road Not Taken


Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim
Because it was grassy and wanted wear,
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I marked the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I,
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

Robert Frost

(This is what started the argument in class)

Yeah I also agree with choices, but fate is also in the end of a choice.


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05-07-2009, 08:01 PM

Looking at it from an fourth dimensional point of view, tempting fate would be bending it, therefore fate isn't the correct term for it. It would just be not beleiving in it at all.

Also, if you think of the world as a university for the souls that want to learn about what happens in life, from a different society or world it would make more sense, considering it is for learning purposes. The nature is the preset of the education, and the humans are the learning resources, since the nature really has nothing too big of a flaw to start with. Humans on the other hand just ruin things, there isn't too much they can do to reperfect nature in it's state now.

And if you look at it that way, fate could be possible; also considering if everyone around you are a phantasm, and you yourself are invincible. (i.e. Pulling the trigger on your head; gun jams) The phantasms around you are just preinstated clients from the other living beings that are living in their own dimension. There are lots of theories, those are just mine. And looking at it from the human's capacity for psychological balance there will never be a way to find out. And the safest path to take is to not beleive in fate because that could be dangerous mentally.
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05-07-2009, 08:19 PM

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Yeah I also agree with choices, but fate is also in the end of a choice.
This may sound corny, but that makes me think about how I used to be terrified of life decisions. After high school, I spent a year trying to decide what I should do, rather than what I would do (if that makes sense). I would start thinking about how entirely different my life will be years down the line based on a decision I would make now.

Then I had an epiphany, like a smack in the head, that not making a choice is a choice in itself. I can't know for certain how my choices will affect my future, but I had to decide that I would rather choose a path and wonder where the other would have led, than not choose one at all.
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05-07-2009, 08:29 PM

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This may sound corny, but that makes me think about how I used to be terrified of life decisions. After high school, I spent a year trying to decide what I should do, rather than what I would do (if that makes sense). I would start thinking about how entirely different my life will be years down the line based on a decision I would make now.

Then I had an epiphany, like a smack in the head, that not making a choice is a choice in itself. I can't know for certain how my choices will affect my future, but I had to decide that I would rather choose a path and wonder where the other would have led, than not choose one at all.
You have a great point.
But Im not saying that Im afraid of choices/fate, even though I made it sound that way. haha But I was just inputting. Choices is more agreeable.


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05-07-2009, 09:12 PM

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You have a great point.
But Im not saying that Im afraid of choices/fate, even though I made it sound that way. haha But I was just inputting. Choices is more agreeable.
My advice never helps anyone T_T - just kidding.

You were perfectly clear - that was kind of just my 2 cents from my life experience with choices/fate.
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duh...of course its choice...if it wasn't murders could be blamed on fate and no one would go to jail


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duh...of course its choice...if it wasn't murders could be blamed on fate and no one would go to jail
then going to jail would be fate as well



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