Moral and logical decisions.

[Jok3r]

Im sure if you were killed they would be too sad to kill themselves.

[Reavyn]

In the car situation, if it was a completely even split where you action would decide which person the car would hit, on both the logical and moral side I think I'd have to choose the child. Even if the lady was my grandmother.

[Jok3r]

Start a giant congo line. That way everyone will come onto the road slowing traffic down. Then puncture the persons tyres when they are not looking and run off somewhere no one will find you...

[Kyousuke]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

It was a simple situation, a simple example. Let's say that this granny would accidently kill this child in some way if she lives.

Koir: Not really thinking too hard. It's interesting to sit down and think about these things. Such things like these exist all the time in the world.

i get it. you cant save a life without taking one away. you can kill a cow to feed the village or you can save the cow and allow the village to starve for the day. or something like that. the same applies to good and evil. you cant have peace without chaos and you cannot have chaos without peace.

i have one for you that ive heard from a comedian named jimmy carr. he asked an audience member a question which is a bit graphic but still makes you think. the question was

would you sleep with your dad to save your moms life.

the boy said no and everyone booed him. jimmy said "think about what your booing. your booing him because he didnt want to sleep with his dad."

would such a decision be a logical one or a moral one? save your mom or commit immorality.

[Reavyn]

Actually, the new PS3 game out called Infamous gives you a Choice such as the orignial poster that would probably make this easier for people to understand.

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On one building there is a bunch of doctors strung up by ropes tied to their hands and they are hanging over the side. On another building your girl friend is strung up by rope tied to her hands hanging over the side. Both have an explosive charge attached to the ropes in order to cut the ropes and allow them to fall. The buildings are too far apart for you to save both, so you have to choose which to save. A whole bunch of doctors or your girl friend.

[MissMisa]

It's kind of like a 'head over heart' situation.

In some walks of life, I always choose my head. In others I go with my heart or the 'moral' decision. I usually go with my gut instinct in things. I do things that I want to do on a whim, sometimes without thinking logically about the consequneces for a long time.

Though in a few short seconds in my head two lists appear - the positives and negatives of each action. Each of the positives will have points as to how important they are, so that the list with the most points will win. That's a weird way of thinking but that's how I make all decisions. Some say that would be logical, but then obviously how the points go depend on my moral emotions.

And that sounds really weird so I'll shut up now.

[Salvanas]

Originally Posted by Kyousuke

i get it. you cant save a life without taking one away. you can kill a cow to feed the village or you can save the cow and allow the village to starve for the day. or something like that. the same applies to good and evil. you cant have peace without chaos and you cannot have chaos without peace.

i have one for you that ive heard from a comedian named jimmy carr. he asked an audience member a question which is a bit graphic but still makes you think. the question was

would you sleep with your dad to save your moms life.

the boy said no and everyone booed him. jimmy said "think about what your booing. your booing him because he didnt want to sleep with his dad."

would such a decision be a logical one or a moral one? save your mom or commit immorality.

Logically, the choice would have to be sleeping with your dad. Since the view that "incest is wrong" is a moral view.

However, what I'd do, is a different matter. I'll have to think on that one.

[iPhantom]

Originally Posted by Kyousuke

would you sleep with your dad to save your moms life.

Hmm? How can this happen IRL? Dad will gently ask you to sleep with him to save mom's life?

You can report him to the police next day... so why should he bother to do that, he can force you right there to sleep with you without the need of 'mom's death menace'. Unless that certain dad is retarded.

[FeyOberon]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

Logically, the choice would have to be sleeping with your dad. Since the view that "incest is wrong" is a moral view.

However, what I'd do, is a different matter. I'll have to think on that one.

But wouldn't the sense of an obligation to save one's own mother also evidence moral influence?

I'm not choosing a side here, my jury is still out on this scenario. It's difficult to decide when circumstances wouldn't give rise to the situation. . . .

[Salvanas]

Originally Posted by FeyOberon

But wouldn't the sense of an obligation to save one's own mother also evidence moral influence?

I'm not choosing a side here, my jury is still out on this scenario. It's difficult to decide when circumstances wouldn't give rise to the situation. . . .

Hence why I'm having to think on it slightly. Deep down, I do not think I'd ever do that.