Sarah Palin quits

[bELyVIS]

Another reason to vote for Palin for President, NOT!

Ethics complaint filed against Palin - Yahoo! News

[solemnclockwork]

Originally Posted by bELyVIS

Another reason to vote for Palin for President, NOT!

Ethics complaint filed against Palin - Yahoo! News

Read the article before posting.

[Tsuwabuki]

Solemnclockwork,

As I say. In two days. Wait until then. You're just adding more I'll have to deal with later.

[bELyVIS]

Originally Posted by solemnclockwork

Read the article before posting.

I did. Just because you blindly want to support her is your problem.
This says it all:
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Outgoing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is facing yet another ethics complaint — the 18th against her and the very thing that helped to prompt her resignation.

The latest complaint alleges she abused her office by accepting a salary and using state staff while campaigning outside Alaska for the vice presidency. It's the third complaint filed against the Republican since she announced July 3 that she was stepping down.

Of course it is all he said, she said. But why does she have so many problems if she was following the rules?

[Barone1551]

Originally Posted by solemnclockwork

Should such writings be taken then? No they should be ignored. That said what do you mean "I could post an identical post to yours"?

Barone1551,

Your writing, to which I responded is not an excuse. You never supported your argument that she "paraded" her children around.

the bold part was in response to your fourth paragraph. I'll enlighten you to what I meant by it. There is an connection between the three parts, that universally all agree are wrong. Now an person could believe murder was right, but does that make it right no. Once could believe that because someone is rich they should take part does that mean they can steal it no. One tales an lie, does that mean there honest, no. Apply this to what has been shown to the Palin's family. Second part stands as to what is happening now.

Who decides which children will be tried as adults? - By Harlan J. Protass - Slate Magazine

Children charged with murder… should they be tried as adults? | Lawinfo Weblog

Youths Shouldn't Be Tried As Adults, Study Says

Read them in response to children and crime.

Enough with the smart talk you know what I meant. when I said I was going by psychologically and legally what constitutes and adult. In what way did I say that someone comments murder they are an adult?

I didnt use it as an excuse by any means. I didnt have time so I figured if you did, you could just type into google what I provided. Not to time consuming I thought.

palin's family used political gain - Google Search

Here now I know you don't seem to value others opinions very much. It seems you need some one to write an article about a topic before you form an opinion. This isnt meant to be mean or hurtful. It just seems that way. Everyone here has an opinion, why does it need to be based off someone else s opinion. I personally take in to account my personal beliefs from what I have seen, and what I have read other places. Both my side and your side are based on opinions, nothing is fact on either side, no matter how many fox news articles you post. Its all opinions, my opinion, your opinion, others opinion, the authors opinion. I base mine off of all these factors. I based my opinion that she used her family after numerous hours of watching election coverage and reading things from other people, and watching news shows that covered the events.

Now to the being and adult thing. I thank you for finding articles the coincide with what I was saying. The articles show my point just as well as it does your. It specifically states that maturity is brought into account and that they can be seen as an adult below the age of 18. If they willingly knew what they were doing they could be seen as an adult. Thats why I said you can be and adult with out being the age of 18. You can know exactly what your doing, and act as a responsible person. This was my point. The articles back that up too. You didn't specifically say murder, but when I brought up the point that people under the age of 18 can be tried as adults, you said that its only becuase they were a harm to society.

And actually this is partly my fault, I didn't realize that Bristol was already 18. I guess I didn't realize becuase I had been thinking of her when she was covered in the election stuff. And I was thinking of when she got pregnant. I didn't know she was 18 already. So this kind of makes the stuff about being a child moot becuase she is an adult.... in pretty much all ways now.

[burkhartdesu]

Originally Posted by Barone1551

And actually this is partly my fault, I didn't realize that Bristol was already 18. I guess I didn't realize becuase I had been thinking of her when she was covered in the election stuff. And I was thinking of when she got pregnant. I didn't know she was 18 already. So this kind of makes the stuff about being a child moot becuase she is an adult.... in pretty much all ways now.

Not only is she an adult, but she is a bitch. I had English III with her, and AutoCAD with her estranged boyfriend Levi.

Stop the sympathy.

[QueenNanami]

Originally Posted by solemnclockwork

What does uncertain mean? When you read the definition you would then know you can't make an accusation of wither she knew or not. THAT is the point. That said I don't care to compare "sites" this isn't an game or "I got more then you" is it? You cannot make an factual guess without evidence to support it.

Palin's town charged women for rape exams - CNN.com

Read it.

If your the mayor of the town, how do you not know about something like that? Why would your police chief keeps secrets like that? And dont demand I read something. I told you, I read many sites about it, and in fact have read the one you just posted. Why are you so rude?

found something weird about Sarah Palin. At first i didnt think it was true but then I looked further into it and found it was.

Your words. Now think of how I'm supposed to take that? Saying something is true means I should take it as fact. Now if you meant to say the story had merit then point out the difference.

Well Like i said before, How do you not now about whats going on in your town if your the flipping Mayor?

Hmmm,

I remember Elementary school when you say "I don't want to keep talking to you". That said I would like you to think about what you are saying. Do you honestly expect me to believe that you harbor such extensive feelings toward her? In the great phrases I would say.... Quite being childish. Then say you would only stick up for certain people, much simpler then making an generalized saying then negating it the second later.

Rude much? Your just mean. Im tired of talking to you. You put me in a bad mood. The reason i reply is because of the fact you make me angry.

"Really? How do you honestly expect me to take this as an logical argument when it is filled with hate?"

"I didn't answer for the simple reason, your post is full of venom. To seriously say she makes woman look like an joke is foolish. Sorry that screams of hate also. To even go as far as to say you wouldn't stand up for her tells us you feelings on her; so as an woman you wouldn't stand up for her rights? Sorry not forcing my beliefs just calling out someone who is being hateful. "

You told me I was being hateful and saying i hated her first. Now that i agree i really hate her and then you call me childish because of that? Also i noticed in this post you basically call me a fool. You say it's foolish, which would make you calling me a fool. I never called you names.

If someone said Hilary Clinton wasnt smart enough I would say she was and I would stick up for that. But if i agree that Sarah Palin is stupid and is like the separated female twin to George W. Bush then No

Do you know the connecting between those two? I'll tell you this time. In what way do you see that one can have assumption and deny another theirs? Either

A you agree that both are branded along the same line.

B You deny both are branded along the same line.

Me and Hilary Clinton have alot of the same views. Thats why i like her. Me and Sarah Palin are clear opposites. She stands for things Im against. Sarah presents herself as a idiot and I dont like her. Thats my reason. Dont give me this bull on how YOU can only think this is the reason why i do that. Because there is no way you can tell how i think and why i choose the things i do. Me and Sarah having different views should be ENOUGH of a reason. Dont tell me that because she's female i should like her. Thats NOT a good enough reason to me.

Reason being you ask? Well first off that is an very broad generalizing, secondly saying unfounded things about someone does nothing. Thirdly that phrase is an mirror opposite of what your doing (if I was doing it to Clinton and you where defending her.)

Yeah I guess it is. Your point? Should i have sympathy for you now?

You should care about your public perception.

Lol, I dont know why i should even give this a response.

Lastly I might add, since you made the comment that "I'm telling you how great she is", I'm defending her against such attacks. I have comments along the lines that I do like her, but I do believe that is as far as I gone (quote me if you think otherwise), as I do believe a LOT of the attacks against her is very unwanted.

Maybe I should've put a [/sarcasm] right there. Cant really tell how Iam saying it here.

[solemnclockwork]

Originally Posted by bELyVIS

I did. Just because you blindly want to support her is your problem.
This says it all:
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Outgoing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is facing yet another ethics complaint — the 18th against her and the very thing that helped to prompt her resignation.

The latest complaint alleges she abused her office by accepting a salary and using state staff while campaigning outside Alaska for the vice presidency. It's the third complaint filed against the Republican since she announced July 3 that she was stepping down.

Of course it is all he said, she said. But why does she have so many problems if she was following the rules?

No, concrete evidence, is the point. So if you want to say I "blindly" support her BACK it up.

Maybe because of what I been saying all along, people are out to destroy her? That said in what way does hearsay count?

Originally Posted by bELyVIS

Another reason to vote for Palin for President, NOT!

Contrast this with your current post.

Originally Posted by Barone1551

I didnt use it as an excuse by any means. I didnt have time so I figured if you did, you could just type into google what I provided. Not to time consuming I thought.

Here now I know you don't seem to value others opinions very much. It seems you need some one to write an article about a topic before you form an opinion. This isnt meant to be mean or hurtful. It just seems that way. Everyone here has an opinion, why does it need to be based off someone else s opinion. I personally take in to account my personal beliefs from what I have seen, and what I have read other places. Both my side and your side are based on opinions, nothing is fact on either side, no matter how many fox news articles you post. Its all opinions, my opinion, your opinion, others opinion, the authors opinion. I base mine off of all these factors. I based my opinion that she used her family after numerous hours of watching election coverage and reading things from other people, and watching news shows that covered the events.

Now to the being and adult thing. I thank you for finding articles the coincide with what I was saying. The articles show my point just as well as it does your. It specifically states that maturity is brought into account and that they can be seen as an adult below the age of 18. If they willingly knew what they were doing they could be seen as an adult. Thats why I said you can be and adult with out being the age of 18. You can know exactly what your doing, and act as a responsible person. This was my point. The articles back that up too. You didn't specifically say murder, but when I brought up the point that people under the age of 18 can be tried as adults, you said that its only becuase they were a harm to society.

And actually this is partly my fault, I didn't realize that Bristol was already 18. I guess I didn't realize becuase I had been thinking of her when she was covered in the election stuff. And I was thinking of when she got pregnant. I didn't know she was 18 already. So this kind of makes the stuff about being a child moot becuase she is an adult.... in pretty much all ways now.

Bristol was 17 (I thought she was 16 I was wrong in that) when she was pregnant. IT does not discount what I have been saying all along, and still stands even when shes 18 people need to leave her alone.

Prove your point? In what way (provide evidence to support)? They were articles talking about children and crime. That said this relates to anothere saying... being mature for your age. When they are TRIED for murder it IS taken into account how much danger they would be to society (they have to let them out at either 18 or 21 regardless of sentence if they are NOT tried as adults).

Saying I have do not value others opinion is baseless without evidence.

Explain this.

Originally Posted by Barone1551

It seems you need some one to write an article about a topic before you form an opinion. This isn't meant to be mean or hurtful. It just seems that way.

Everyone opinion is equal point to make. Withholding that rule, debates (like this one) does not take into account "ones opinion" but rather challenge that view, to which is happening now. Your Opinion and mine WILL not remain unscathed coming into an place like this.

Fox news eh? I don't believe I have posted few if not none form fox news, care to provide evidence? That said you do know fox news is they most watched news network?

Q2 Cable Ratings: FNC Dominance; Up Across the Board; 10 Top Shows - mediabistro.com: TVNewser

Last to add, opinions are just that opinions. To which does not make something true hence WHY I keep asking for evidence.

Originally Posted by Barone1551

palin's family used political gain - Google Search

You are the first to pull something like this on me. Google is an search engine I presume you know that, but in an ditch effort to annoy me. Now can you stop with the nonsense and actually do some research to support your argument?

You should then explain that later you would provide some, over telling me to LOOK up information to provide merit to your claim. I'm not debating a search engine. Saying I should look it up is an incredible poor excuse, try to pull that on your boss, teachers, or mentors.

Originally Posted by QueenNanami

If your the mayor of the town, how do you not know about something like that? Why would your police chief keeps secrets like that? And dont demand I read something. I told you, I read many sites about it, and in fact have read the one you just posted. Why are you so rude?

Well Like i said before, How do you not now about whats going on in your town if your the flipping Mayor?


Rude much? Your just mean. Im tired of talking to you. You put me in a bad mood. The reason i reply is because of the fact you make me angry.

"Really? How do you honestly expect me to take this as an logical argument when it is filled with hate?"

"I didn't answer for the simple reason, your post is full of venom. To seriously say she makes woman look like an joke is foolish. Sorry that screams of hate also. To even go as far as to say you wouldn't stand up for her tells us you feelings on her; so as an woman you wouldn't stand up for her rights? Sorry not forcing my beliefs just calling out someone who is being hateful. "

You told me I was being hateful and saying i hated her first. Now that i agree i really hate her and then you call me childish because of that? Also i noticed in this post you basically call me a fool. You say it's foolish, which would make you calling me a fool. I never called you names.


Me and Hilary Clinton have alot of the same views. Thats why i like her. Me and Sarah Palin are clear opposites. She stands for things Im against. Sarah presents herself as a idiot and I dont like her. Thats my reason. Dont give me this bull on how YOU can only think this is the reason why i do that. Because there is no way you can tell how i think and why i choose the things i do. Me and Sarah having different views should be ENOUGH of a reason. Dont tell me that because she's female i should like her. Thats NOT a good enough reason to me.

Yeah I guess it is. Your point? Should i have sympathy for you now?

Lol, I dont know why i should even give this a response.

Maybe I should've put a [/sarcasm] right there. Cant really tell how Iam saying it here.

Sarcams sign? Explain.

I would expect you to see what your doing here, hence why I pointed it out.

Well you don't live in this world alone do you?

I have different views then a lot of politicians, but as that is said I mature and knowledgeable to know that "hating" and despising them is wrong and puts an huge burden on the person who does such an thing. As an fellow American could you stand up for her for being an American "United we stand divided we fall". Having different views then someone is an poor excuse to hate them.

Me making you "angry" is your problem. If you get mad because an different opinion is presented then you need to check your anger.

Let me first explain the different in calling an statement something and calling the person. First and foremost I said the STATEMENT is foolish, did not relate to you. Joe Biden makes gaps all the time and people don't challenge him but what he says, there is an difference.

Phrases like "I don't want to keep talking to you" and "I hate....so and so) are childish. Saying that "quite being childish" does not make you child, what it is saying your currently acting like one. Difference. You could also take that in context of the sentence before it too.

Rude? depends on how thick your skin is. I would say though at most I usually provide constructive criticism. If you haven't realized yet, this is an heated debate as such when things get hot they burn. Outside of this debate we still are all on the same page and should be NO bad blood between each other.

It doesn't matter what you then when there is no concrete evidence. Point is you can say she might of known, but does that make it true? You cannot stick an accusation against someone without first proving that those accusation are true. It the same as with conspiracy theories.

[bELyVIS]

Originally Posted by solemnclockwork

No, concrete evidence, is the point. So if you want to say I "blindly" support her BACK it up.

Maybe because of what I been saying all along, people are out to destroy her? That said in what way does hearsay count?

It really doesn't matter to me because I hate the woman and would never vote for her, you go right ahead. Have a party.

Originally Posted by solemnclockwork

Contrast this with your current post.

Another reason to vote for Palin for President, NOT!
I thought everyone knew that that meant not a reason. I'm sorry if I confused you.

[minimin]

People are actually arguing about this harhar. Well, i say its bad for Democrats cuz now they don't have some religious right wing extremist to use as an example. I thought she was the greatest thing to happen to democrats. hahaha