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07-21-2009, 12:52 AM

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07-21-2009, 02:50 AM

I was bullied when i was a kid, but i never really took conscious notice of it. >.>

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07-21-2009, 03:03 AM

I was bullied when I was a kid until the age of nine years old. At that point my parents decided that I'd had enough and enrolled me in a karate class. Not only was I able to learn how to defend myself, but I also learned how to try to talk my way out of trouble before fighting. Of course after being bullied for many years people thought I was still an easy target. One kid that had picked on me for several years decided he would not listen to my reasoning and tried to beat me up. I don't remember what actually happened in the fight, but I ended up breaking his leg so badly that he was in a body cast for a year. His parents tried to sue me but it was thrown out of court since there were too many witnesses to him starting the fight. After everyone saw what happened to him I never had to fight ever again.

The advice I would give to anyone who is being bullied is to fight back as hard as you can and when others see that she will not put up with it that will end it.


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07-21-2009, 11:11 AM

bELyVIS@ wtf? Are you encouraging every victim to learn karate and beat their bullier's ass? I thought one of the ground rules of learning karate is to swear never to use it for own benefit unless you're actually in a deadly situation. As karate is pretty hardcore.. O_O

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07-21-2009, 11:27 AM

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bELyVIS@ wtf? Are you encouraging every victim to learn karate and beat their bullier's ass? I thought one of the ground rules of learning karate is to swear never to use it for own benefit unless you're actually in a deadly situation. As karate is pretty hardcore.. O_O
I'd actually have to agree with what bELyVIS there. He let the fight come to him, and then dealt with the situation which made sure it never happened again.

I'd tell my kids to do the same thing.


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I'd actually have to agree with what bELyVIS there. He let the fight come to him, and then dealt with the situation which made sure it never happened again.

I'd tell my kids to do the same thing.
There's a difference between fighting back fairly and using freaking karate.

Besides, I don't think the bully is the main problem. The people standing around WATCHING the incidents are the issue. If people stood up and told the bully to buggar off, he/she would come together fast and leave whoever alone.


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There's a difference between fighting back fairly and using freaking karate.
What is it? Using martial arts to defeat any attacker is fair.

If someone attacks me, they deserve whatever I choose to give them. If people don't want to deal with the consequences of initiating a violent scenario (which are pretty limitless consequences) then they should keep their hands in their pockets.

You cannot go up to someone just because you've got your own insecurities and start on them, then complain they over reacted if you end up in hospital for 2 years and a wheelchair for 70.


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What is it? Using martial arts to defeat any attacker is fair.
At SCHOOL? Wtf is wrong with this world?
Let's say about 3% of school students know martial arts in whatever kind. That means 97% don't. Is that fair, you think? It's fine to kick your bullier's ass, but breaking his leg causing him to sit in a wheelchair for a year is just not cool. Doing that made people FEAR you, not respect you for standing up for yourself.


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At SCHOOL? Wtf is wrong with this world?
Let's say about 3% of school students know martial arts in whatever kind. That means 97% don't. Is that fair, you think? It's fine to kick your bullier's ass, but breaking his leg causing him to sit in a wheelchair for a year is just not cool. Doing that made people FEAR you, not respect you for standing up for yourself.
Sometimes fear and respect are similar things. Or, at least, they should be.

Bullying someone for no good reason is more wrong than retaliation. A bully needs to learn the meaning of the word "consequence" more than a victim needs to learn the meaning of the word "restraint".

In the end, a victim who only ever uses force in retaliation will never hurt the innocent, yet a bully who does not know consequence; there is no telling how far they could go.


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07-21-2009, 12:42 PM

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Sometimes fear and respect are similar things. Or, at least, they should be.

In the end, a victim who only ever uses force in retaliation will never hurt the innocent, yet a bully who does not know consequence; there is no telling how far they could go.
I don't agree with the first part there, but you got me on the last one. There are no limits to how far a bully would go. Sadly.


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