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*blushes* I'm sowwy MMM.

But in all seriousness..insults cant always be taken as "bullying"


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*blushes* I'm sowwy MMM.

But in all seriousness..insults cant always be taken as "bullying"
Aye. I think me and Quail just demonstrated that perfectly.


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Aye. I think me and Quail just demonstrated that perfectly.
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07-15-2009, 12:18 AM

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As a teacher, I would say that I disagree with Mercedes as to the extent of behavior being bullying. Bullying is part of repetetive pattern, but not necessarily in regards to one victim. Many bullies bully whoever happens to be convienent, so it is possible each victim could be victimised once. The act, being part of a pattern, can be accurately labeled bullying.

However, the key is that bullies target weaker opponents. Bullies never pick a fight unless they're certain the odds are in their favor. If you stand up to a bully, win or lose, they back off: you are not worth the trouble. Trading barbs between equals is not bullying.
That's something I can agree with. When I think about it now, the children that I teach will insult a person only once or twice, but they'll insult EVERYONE. In that case, yes - it's repetitive.

I still think that it's bullying when a person decides to pick on another, whether they're equal or not. Today, there was almost a fight between two kids. I'd say they're equal. On either side of them they have a friend that stands up for them whenever they get into arguments. They stand up to each other. Today, literally, when the girl stood up and got into the boy's face and the boy stood up also, getting into her face. When I separated the two and asked them each why they got into a fight, the boy told me that the girl always thinks that he's talking about her behind her back to his friend, which he insists that he isn't. Speaking to the girl, I realized that she started the fight out of her own insecurities, trying to bring the boy down. They were both still "equals," but she attacked him out of her own insecurities, not because she saw that the boy was insecure and therefore weak.


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MMM: I disagree. If someone can point out to a statement saying, "This is where you bullied me," and, "This is where you discriminated against me," and it turns out that they have indeed had someone insult them or say something discriminating, then they've been bullied and they've been discriminated against. If someone has degraded another person and they didn't mean to, then all they have to do is apologize and the issue is over. If a person feels emotionally harmed, however, then yes - they've been bullied.
Of course if you can "prove" someone bullied someone, then they bullied. I am saying just because you feel bullied or discriminated against doesn't mean that it happened. Human perceptions are ruled by emotion, and by nature, emotions aren't always rational or logical.

Let's say I go to a native Chinese restaurant and am seated before a Chinese-speaking group. I order first, but they get their order before I do. I may feel that because I am not Chinese I was discriminated against. However, that does not mean the Chinese restaurant owner discriminated against me. I may not realize that the other table called their order in on the phone before they arrived. So my perception and the reality are not the same.

On this site someone might say "Some mods don't know what they are doing." If I feel that comment is directed towards me, I may feel insulted. However that person could be talking about someone else, and therefore didn't insult me, whether I perceived it that way or not.
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07-15-2009, 12:26 AM

I would not call that situation bullying. I would definitely call it conflict, but even though the girl was trying to "take him down a peg" there are obviously deeper reasons why she went after him, since he said this was not an isolated event. He did something she felt threatened her, so she has a pattern of instigation. This is not bullying. Bullying's sole purpose is to make one feel superior by taking the easiest course. Redressing a grievance through a disruptive outburst, real or imagined, is inappropriate behavior, but it isn't bullying.
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07-15-2009, 12:27 AM

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On this site someone might say "Some mods don't know what they are doing." If I feel that comment is directed towards me, I may feel insulted. However that person could be talking about someone else, and therefore didn't insult me, whether I perceived it that way or not.
Putting a lot of thought into the situation eh?

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