Sex change at 16?

[RobinMask]

Originally Posted by pumpum

There is no such thing as transgender, it is just a word made up by morons to justify stupidity. You are what you are born and no matter how medically advanced society is, it will never defeat nature, its so arrogant to even think we can.

If we assume you're correct, do you think that it's still okay for people to get the operations and 'change' their gender, regardless of whether it's an actual disorder or not?

I just ask as to me if people take the approach of 'there's no such thing as transgender', that doesn't seem to automatically mean someone can't change their gender anyway, which is what a few other people with your stance have argued. I mean we're all born with the hair colour, noses and eye colours that we have . . . how many people dye their hair, get nose jobs, or wear coloured contacts? Even if a person is 'stupid' and doesn't have a genuine issue, don't they still have the right to be what they want to be, 'arrogant' or not?

[TalnSG]

Originally Posted by pumpum

You are what you are born and no matter how medically advanced society is, it will never defeat nature, its so arrogant to even think we can.

So why did you ever learn to type? When close-minded and stupid by nature what is the point of communicating with others?

[tazzy]

Wayyyyy too young.
When I was 16 I had no idea if I was gay straight or anything. Even may have had some thoughts of perhaps being a tranny. Glad I didn't go ahead and get my little fella chopped off.

[Kaostry]

my opinion is that the age of 16 is still too young and as parent I wouldn't allow it.
But as long at it is your own body and you have the money for it you can do whatever you want with your life.

[YukisUke]

Originally Posted by Kaostry

my opinion is that the age of 16 is still too young and as parent I wouldn't allow it.
But as long at it is your own body and you have the money for it you can do whatever you want with your life.

Put yourself in their shoes. How would you feel if you wanted to be the opposite gender because you didn't feel right as the person you were currently? You'd want to change that, and that's exactly what they want to do. If my child didn't feel right as a girl (Just saying. I don't have a child.) and wanted to be a boy instead, who am I to say no??

[MMM]

Originally Posted by YukisUke

Put yourself in their shoes. How would you feel if you wanted to be the opposite gender because you didn't feel right as the person you were currently? You'd want to change that, and that's exactly what they want to do. If my child didn't feel right as a girl (Just saying. I don't have a child.) and wanted to be a boy instead, who am I to say no??

Is it a good idea to let your 16 year old get a tattoo?

Is it a good idea to let your 16 year old get married?

How many 16 years date "the love of their life, they are going to be with forever and ever?" How many of those relationships last more than a year?

How many young people experiment with same-sex relations, only to never do it again once they are in their 20s?

[RobinMask]

Originally Posted by MMM

Is it a good idea to let your 16 year old get a tattoo?

Is it a good idea to let your 16 year old get married?

How many 16 years date "the love of their life, they are going to be with forever and ever?" How many of those relationships last more than a year?

How many young people experiment with same-sex relations, only to never do it again once they are in their 20s?

Ah, to be sixteen again!

Seriously, I guess the question is 'what age is one an adult?' Here eighteen is old enough to make that choice and become the opposite gender, whilst at sixteen one is still technically a minor. People can marry at sixteen, have sex at sixteen, work full-time at sixteen, drop out of school . . . if they can do virtually everything an eighteen-year-old can, (except drink and vote) then why can't they change sex, too?

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with you. I just don't think a couple of years will make a hell of a lot of difference to a person's emotional/mental state, I mean if you think back to being eighteen it was only barely better enlightened than sixteen . . .

Perhaps each individual case should be assessed by professionals before allowing someone to change gender? I have an acquiantance who's twenty-three and still jumping through hoops so that the doctors will allow him the surgery he desires. Now I know he's with the NHS, not private, so he's required to . . . but wouldn't it be best if everyone, regardless of age, had the same assessments? I mean some sixteen-year-old's may be capable of making that choice, and som forty-year-olds may never be ready.

I just question whether age is always a factor . . .

[MMM]

I think the key point is that, unlike marriage or a pierced tongue, it is not a decision that can be reversed relatively easily.

[YukisUke]

Originally Posted by MMM

Is it a good idea to let your 16 year old get a tattoo?

Is it a good idea to let your 16 year old get married?

How many 16 years date "the love of their life, they are going to be with forever and ever?" How many of those relationships last more than a year?

How many young people experiment with same-sex relations, only to never do it again once they are in their 20s?

16 year-old kids get tattoos all the time where I live. No big deal. The marriage part however, not gonna happen. You're getting out of line when all I said was that I would let my child get a sex change if they didn't feel right in their skin. Don't change the subject on me and don't turn to other topics that don't have to do with the thread.

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by MMM

I think the key point is that, unlike marriage or a pierced tongue, it is not a decision that can be reversed relatively easily.

I think the big reason I answered "individual basis" on this one was that there are indeed cases of true GID (Gender Identity Disorder) that are present from childhood and can be verified. There is no benefit in making people with the disorder "wait" - it will only bring on natural bodily changes that, well, cannot be reversed.
Parents and doctors should be involved, things should be checked and verified, and if it is true GID from childhood - I see absolutely no reason not to go through a sex change at an early age.
It is when it is a fleeting stage that people should step back and wait. And it shouldn`t be hard to tell if there is a high chance of it being just a stage as it would not have been present from early childhood. And if it had only been a childhood stage, it shouldn`t last until early puberty.