Sex change at 16?

[alanX]

Originally Posted by Miyavifan

How can her gender be questionable, when she herself considers herself female?

I can consider myself a purple zebra, does that mean I am indeed a purple zeebra?

HE was born as a BOY. HE sliced off HIS reproductive organ, does that somehow mean he is now a girl?

If I met a transsexual who now considers himself a female, (not that I would ever talk to a transsexual) but I would still refer to HIM as Mr.whatever. Not Mrs.whatever just because he no longer has the male reproductive organ.

[Salvanas]

It all comes down to what his/her chromosomes are.

[Miyavifan]

Originally Posted by alanX

HE was born as a BOY. HE sliced off HIS reproductive organ, does that somehow mean he is now a girl?

If I met a transsexual who now considers himself a female, (not that I would ever talk to a transsexual) but I would still refer to HIM as Mr.whatever. Not Mrs.whatever just because he no longer has the male reproductive organ.

Yes, it means that SHE is now a girl , imo.

[alanX]

Originally Posted by Miyavifan

Yes, it means that SHE is now a girl , imo.

So if I went into my bathroom right now and sliced my penis off, does that make me a girl?

[Salvanas]

Originally Posted by Miyavifan

Yes, it means that SHE is now a girl , imo.

No. Chopping your penis off does not make you a girl. It's what your chromosomes are.

[Miyavifan]

Originally Posted by alanX

So if I went into my bathroom right now and sliced my penis off, does that make me a girl?

No, because you don't see yourself as one.
But she does. That's my point.

[Columbine]

Originally Posted by alanX

So if I went into my bathroom right now and sliced my penis off, does that make me a girl?

No, it makes you a eunuch. You don't LIVE as a female, socially and mentally associate with one or feel that your current gender is incorrect. Genitals, presence or absence thereof, do not a gender make. Nor do chromosomes; there are such things as sex-reversed females; men with a XX chromosome, and sex-reversed males; females with an XY chromosome. They still have the relevant genitalia eg XX, male, male genitalia or XY, female, female genitalia.

[alanX]

Originally Posted by Columbine

No, it makes you a eunuch. You don't LIVE as a female, socially and mentally associate with one or feel that your current gender is incorrect. Genitals, presence or absence thereof, do not a gender make. Nor do chromosomes; there are such things as sex-reversed females; men with a XX chromosome, and sex-reversed males; females with an XY chromosome. They still have the relevant genitalia eg XX, male, male genitalia or XY, female, female genitalia.

Wow. I've never met anyone more liberal here on JF.
You're reading way too into it, my friend.

All these things. They all have a name. It's called "gay."
If you're born with a penis, then you're a male. If you're born with a vagina, then you're female. You can pretend to be female all you want, but that will never make you one. Nothing will. It's not rocket science.

Just because you're a male pretending to be female, does not make you a female. Sorry, bud.

[Columbine]

Originally Posted by alanX

Wow. I've never met anyone more liberal here on JF.
You're reading way too into it, my friend.

All these things. They all have a name. It's called "gay."
If you're born with a penis, then you're a male. If you're born with a vagina, then you're female. You can pretend to be female all you want, but that will never make you one. Nothing will. It's not rocket science.

Just because you're a male pretending to be female, does not make you a female. Sorry, bud.

You say liberal like it's a dirty word, and for the record, you in turn are grossly simplifying the matter.

I've already pointed out, gender identity has nothing to do with sexual orientation, so your point doesn't stand as far as I'm concerned; not from a bio-psychological approach. Gender does not equal biological sex nor does it equal sexual orientation. It's not based solely on hormones or chromosomes or genitalia but is a many-fold amalgamation of various different factors.

Considering you've already admitted you'd never even speak to a transgendered person you've already shown that you are largely ignorant and closed-minded about the subject.

[Deviruu]

I think each individual should be able to choose what they want when it comes to gender as long as it's what THEY want. You really can't go back if you went "Whoop! Changed my mind!" So I hope those who do get this surgery done are more than sure.
Some people can't handle the comments, some can.